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I am not long this security, but I reserve the right to change that anytime.]]></description><link>https://researchragnarok.com/p/mini-memo-why-i-am-considering-going</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://researchragnarok.com/p/mini-memo-why-i-am-considering-going</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Ragnarok Research]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 25 May 2026 11:41:35 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ut19!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6e7a6f7d-f013-485f-912b-04c33c3d25b5_871x720.png" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://researchragnarok.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe now&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="https://researchragnarok.com/subscribe?"><span>Subscribe now</span></a></p><p></p><p>MNDY is a project and workflow management software made for enterprises and has been punished by the market for fears of AI taking its lunch, with shares having fallen 70% in the past year:<br></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ut19!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6e7a6f7d-f013-485f-912b-04c33c3d25b5_871x720.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ut19!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6e7a6f7d-f013-485f-912b-04c33c3d25b5_871x720.png 424w, 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workflow/project management solutions such as MNDY. MNDY has gotten something of a first mover advantage and has made its applications compatible for AI agents to be run by.</p></li><li><p>This is a stark contrast to analyst models, and while our analysis does indicate a chance that AI does kill MDNY&#8217; s business model, we think that the current valuation reflects that the market prices that possibility at about 100%, while we think it is more like 30%.</p></li></ul><p><strong>What the street thinks</strong></p><p>Analysts are under the impression that MNDY will go through a rough growth deceleration due to AI eating up their lunch. As per Guggenheim&#8217;s recent analyst report, large customers of MNDY are certain that there are no short term displacements in the contracts MNDY holds, but the long term remains uncertain:<br></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!40a5!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0992cab8-8672-46f7-ba66-a23c5bafbc22_661x371.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!40a5!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0992cab8-8672-46f7-ba66-a23c5bafbc22_661x371.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!40a5!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0992cab8-8672-46f7-ba66-a23c5bafbc22_661x371.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!40a5!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0992cab8-8672-46f7-ba66-a23c5bafbc22_661x371.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!40a5!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0992cab8-8672-46f7-ba66-a23c5bafbc22_661x371.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!40a5!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0992cab8-8672-46f7-ba66-a23c5bafbc22_661x371.png" width="661" height="371" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/0992cab8-8672-46f7-ba66-a23c5bafbc22_661x371.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:371,&quot;width&quot;:661,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!40a5!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0992cab8-8672-46f7-ba66-a23c5bafbc22_661x371.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!40a5!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0992cab8-8672-46f7-ba66-a23c5bafbc22_661x371.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!40a5!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0992cab8-8672-46f7-ba66-a23c5bafbc22_661x371.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!40a5!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0992cab8-8672-46f7-ba66-a23c5bafbc22_661x371.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>As such, Guggenheim is projecting a 19% and 17% YoY Growth respectively for MNDY revenues. This problem of investor pessimism was exacerbated by a CNBC video where MNDY was &#8216;vibe coded in 15 minutes&#8217; using Claude, further depressing MNDY&#8217;s valuation:<br></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!KLGY!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F941af1dd-6ccc-4b4d-bc47-c1ce9ac2298a_574x744.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!KLGY!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F941af1dd-6ccc-4b4d-bc47-c1ce9ac2298a_574x744.png 424w, 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y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>The untrained investor may look at this interview with shock and sell his MNDY shares predicting a SAAS doomsday as they fear AI will someday take MNDY&#8217;s lunch. <br><br></p><h3><strong>What we think</strong></h3><p>MNDY is a state-of-the-art workflow management platform trusted by thousands of customers. An impressive thing about MNDY is its high switching costs. While this does not translate to improvement in revenue growth rates, it still does well to call out the stupidity in MNDY&#8217;s stock dropping by more than half.</p><p><em><strong>We spoke to a [small] MNDY customer, and they expressed that while they don&#8217;t have plans to switch out of MNDY anytime soon, it would be a huge hassle even if they wanted to.</strong></em></p><p>This is because of how deeply rooted MNDY&#8217;s platform becomes in a company&#8217;s infrastructure, with switching to other platforms needing external platforms such as movebot or outright paying developers to transfer the APIs to other platforms securely.  Larger customers with complex workflows would struggle even more to migrate, exacerbating MNDY&#8217;s &#8216;moat&#8217;.</p><p>However, the primary reason we think that MNDY shares should command a little bit moore of a premium valuation is a mere probability exercise:</p><ul><li><p><strong>The market, as per us, is valuing MNDY as if it has about a 90% chance of terminal risk, due to it trading at low valuations at 2x EV/sales, while normally SAAS trades at 4x. While this is due to fears of AI adoption, we will prove below how the possibilities of these materialising is way lower than what the market expects</strong></p></li><li><p><strong>Agentic AIs, when deployed by enterprises, will need a co-ordination layer. Enterprises will never ever just give up the whole company&#8217;s operations to AI; it will be a collaboration exercise between humans and agentic AIs. We think MNDY stands to gain as an integral collaboration layer.</strong></p></li><li><p><strong>MNDY is moving on to a subscription + consumption based hybrid pricing model, where the vanilla MNDY&#8217;s uses will be accessible for the same per month pricing,k but AI agentic usage will cost extra. This causes MNDY to potentially gain revenues from existing </strong><em><strong>and</strong></em><strong> new prospective customers, as the chances of existing customers switching out en masse are extremely low, especially if they are large enterprises.</strong></p></li><li><p><strong>Hubspot CTO essentially validated our thesis that AI will indeed need a co-ordination layer(although he might be a little biased)</strong></p></li></ul><p>The market is punishing MNDY and other SAAS names because of fears of AI adoption and <em>displacing</em> MNDY. Moreover, that little stunt and CNBC where the hosts vibe coded a MNDY clone doesn&#8217;t mean anything. I could make a <a href="http://react.js">react.js</a> clone of facebook but that doesn&#8217;t mean my application will displace facebook: Merely because <strong>facebook already has embedded users</strong>.</p><p>Moreover, <strong>IBM Recently <a href="https://www.ibm.com/thought-leadership/institute-business-value/en-us/report/agentic-ai-enterprise-operations">published </a>a paper called &#8220;The blueprint for agentic operations: How to build an interconnected enterprise&#8221;, </strong>clearly stating a need for workflow managers:<br></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!iqka!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fcfe59a97-5432-4a1b-a0b8-bcf073853535_561x461.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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tool and workflow management is <strong>absolutely essential</strong></p><p>Moreover, the idea above of a &#8216;digital twin&#8217; already exists in MNDY&#8217;s roster:<br></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!aiAE!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0b3c766c-2071-4ee3-9bdb-11f918524568_655x754.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!aiAE!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0b3c766c-2071-4ee3-9bdb-11f918524568_655x754.png 424w, 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y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>So, therefore, with the apparent need of an orchestration layer and a digital twin, we think that the market is understating MNDY&#8217;s potential importance to enterprises for driving widespread agentic AI adoption.</p><p>The beauty of MNDY that it has agentic AIs enabled in its platform. It has the capability to let <em><a href="https://support.monday.com/hc/en-us/articles/34060974011794-Using-external-agents-on-monday-FAQs">external</a></em><a href="https://support.monday.com/hc/en-us/articles/34060974011794-Using-external-agents-on-monday-FAQs"> agents</a> (such as manus) as well as agents hosted in the platform to use the workflow management platform. This pivot into an &#8216;AI Operating system for enterprises&#8217; is what makes us bullish on MNDY.</p><p>Moreover, something we(and the CEO of MNDY) can agree on is that vanilla SAAS pricing models are dead. MNDY&#8217;s CEO shares the same view in this <a href="https://medium.com/activated-thinker/monday-com-lost-80-of-its-value-its-ceo-says-thats-exactly-why-he-s-going-all-in-bbd48f075f90">podcast </a>he did:<br></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Tgka!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F220ee955-63d3-4603-bf32-1f00d620e761_784x228.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Tgka!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F220ee955-63d3-4603-bf32-1f00d620e761_784x228.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Tgka!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F220ee955-63d3-4603-bf32-1f00d620e761_784x228.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Tgka!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F220ee955-63d3-4603-bf32-1f00d620e761_784x228.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Tgka!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F220ee955-63d3-4603-bf32-1f00d620e761_784x228.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Tgka!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F220ee955-63d3-4603-bf32-1f00d620e761_784x228.png" width="784" height="228" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/220ee955-63d3-4603-bf32-1f00d620e761_784x228.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:228,&quot;width&quot;:784,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Tgka!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F220ee955-63d3-4603-bf32-1f00d620e761_784x228.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Tgka!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F220ee955-63d3-4603-bf32-1f00d620e761_784x228.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Tgka!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F220ee955-63d3-4603-bf32-1f00d620e761_784x228.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Tgka!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F220ee955-63d3-4603-bf32-1f00d620e761_784x228.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>We think this is the step in the right direction. Given that right now, MNDY&#8217;s pricing is hybrid, enterprises will likely use MNDY&#8217;s agentic AI offerings at some point if the threat of AI <em>is truly</em> real. This should be tailwinds of some sort to MNDY, as a new revenue stream should be created from present customers as it is unlikely a huge amount of them will switch out to other platforms, and instead would opt to use MNDY&#8217;s AI offerings, in addition of course to future prospective revenues.</p><p>While this might be a biased take, HUBS CTO purchased about 1.8 million dollars in HUBS shares, and this was his thesis:<br></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!mM3n!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F765acc8b-62a6-44a1-8143-30e438993388_478x249.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!mM3n!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F765acc8b-62a6-44a1-8143-30e438993388_478x249.png" width="478" height="249" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/765acc8b-62a6-44a1-8143-30e438993388_478x249.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:249,&quot;width&quot;:478,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" 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We think Dharmesh knows better than us and more than most people. He here is talking about the same orchestration layer we read in the IBM paper, and we think experts hinting at the need for MNDY&#8217;s offerings(indirectly) is bullish, and while AI risks <em><strong>might</strong></em> be real, the risk-reward is in might be in our favour.</p><h3>Final checks before pulling the trigger</h3><ul><li><p>Talk to competitors how good MNDY is</p></li><li><p>Will enterprises truly adopt orchestration layer?</p></li><li><p>If orchestration layers are to be adopted, who is gaining the most? HUBS? 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This company has gone from priced to perfection, to being priced as if it won&#8217;t deliver anything! </p><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://researchragnarok.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">Thanks for reading! Subscribe for free to receive new posts and support my work.</p></div><form class="subscription-widget-subscribe"><input type="email" class="email-input" name="email" placeholder="Type your email&#8230;" tabindex="-1"><input type="submit" class="button primary" value="Subscribe"><div class="fake-input-wrapper"><div class="fake-input"></div><div class="fake-button"></div></div></form></div></div><p></p><p>We present to you, $MKTW:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!HjXC!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9818a16a-cf68-4e7f-b6ff-853cc3643952_893x653.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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Here are the <a href="https://corporate.marketwise.com/our-companies/">companies </a>it owns:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!vkIB!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa67f1530-352c-4ada-b04d-58dbd53a3372_652x601.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!vkIB!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa67f1530-352c-4ada-b04d-58dbd53a3372_652x601.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!vkIB!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa67f1530-352c-4ada-b04d-58dbd53a3372_652x601.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!vkIB!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa67f1530-352c-4ada-b04d-58dbd53a3372_652x601.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!vkIB!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa67f1530-352c-4ada-b04d-58dbd53a3372_652x601.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!vkIB!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa67f1530-352c-4ada-b04d-58dbd53a3372_652x601.png" width="652" height="601" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/a67f1530-352c-4ada-b04d-58dbd53a3372_652x601.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:601,&quot;width&quot;:652,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:37381,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:false,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:&quot;https://researchragnarok.substack.com/i/169114088?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa67f1530-352c-4ada-b04d-58dbd53a3372_652x601.png&quot;,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!vkIB!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa67f1530-352c-4ada-b04d-58dbd53a3372_652x601.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!vkIB!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa67f1530-352c-4ada-b04d-58dbd53a3372_652x601.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!vkIB!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa67f1530-352c-4ada-b04d-58dbd53a3372_652x601.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!vkIB!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa67f1530-352c-4ada-b04d-58dbd53a3372_652x601.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>Even though we are bullish on the stock, we empathise with the market for punishing the name this long. For instance, revenue growth has been negative for the past few quarters:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!iJSk!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1b01230a-0e3d-41c0-bf19-8d30109813e0_1489x414.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!iJSk!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1b01230a-0e3d-41c0-bf19-8d30109813e0_1489x414.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!iJSk!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1b01230a-0e3d-41c0-bf19-8d30109813e0_1489x414.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!iJSk!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1b01230a-0e3d-41c0-bf19-8d30109813e0_1489x414.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!iJSk!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1b01230a-0e3d-41c0-bf19-8d30109813e0_1489x414.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!iJSk!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1b01230a-0e3d-41c0-bf19-8d30109813e0_1489x414.png" width="1456" height="405" 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stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>However, while the revenue growth has been extremely abysmal, we think that the market has punished the stock too hard, and continues to not appreciate its recent progress at a turnaround and growth. For context, MKTW did 83 million dollars in revenue this quarter. By annualising this, you get a Price-To-Sales ratio of just 0.96x, and a PE of about 4.9x</p><p></p><p>Nevertheless, we aren&#8217;t ones to buy a stock <em>just</em> because it is cheap. Here is why we see tremendous turnaround potential in MKTW&#8217;s share price:</p><p></p><h3>We think the worst is behind us. Net billings are up in recent quarter, and search volume for MKTW companies have been exploding lately. The market thinks something terrible has happened to revenues; but we think MKTW&#8217;s core business is resilient</h3><p>One of the main reasons MKTW revenue and KPIs have been suffering is due to them shutting down a relatively big part of their business called &#8216;Legacy Research&#8217;. This gradual wind-down kicked off in mid 2024, and the stock has reacted rather badly to this:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!qxtu!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F822eb75a-c9c8-4991-9d62-a562acf23077_1385x810.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!qxtu!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F822eb75a-c9c8-4991-9d62-a562acf23077_1385x810.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!qxtu!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F822eb75a-c9c8-4991-9d62-a562acf23077_1385x810.png 848w, 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stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>This wind-down of Legacy Research resulted in a rather ugly decrease in Billings in 2024, which puts a lot of the share price action in 2024 in context:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!dDYM!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1988179f-09c3-435c-9302-05641bd1d768_915x133.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!dDYM!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1988179f-09c3-435c-9302-05641bd1d768_915x133.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!dDYM!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1988179f-09c3-435c-9302-05641bd1d768_915x133.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!dDYM!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1988179f-09c3-435c-9302-05641bd1d768_915x133.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!dDYM!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1988179f-09c3-435c-9302-05641bd1d768_915x133.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>For clarification, total 2024 billings was 240 million dollars</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!kEPA!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5fada86a-b8cb-423a-b444-9e985332c430_932x297.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!kEPA!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5fada86a-b8cb-423a-b444-9e985332c430_932x297.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!kEPA!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5fada86a-b8cb-423a-b444-9e985332c430_932x297.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!kEPA!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5fada86a-b8cb-423a-b444-9e985332c430_932x297.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!kEPA!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5fada86a-b8cb-423a-b444-9e985332c430_932x297.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!kEPA!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5fada86a-b8cb-423a-b444-9e985332c430_932x297.png" width="932" height="297" 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stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>Now while it is true that it did hurt business a little, we think the market taking the stock from about 60 dollars to about 20 dollars is a little bit of an over-reaction, as the market was trying to value MKTW as a company which was <em>losing</em> revenue due to Legacy Research.</p><p></p><p>However, the most recent Q1 2025 Earnings showed a few things:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!vChT!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F827043e5-3540-4bfb-b46d-38864e261d85_881x95.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!vChT!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F827043e5-3540-4bfb-b46d-38864e261d85_881x95.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!vChT!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F827043e5-3540-4bfb-b46d-38864e261d85_881x95.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!vChT!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F827043e5-3540-4bfb-b46d-38864e261d85_881x95.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!vChT!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F827043e5-3540-4bfb-b46d-38864e261d85_881x95.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!vChT!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F827043e5-3540-4bfb-b46d-38864e261d85_881x95.png" width="881" height="95" 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loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><p></p><p>Total billings are <strong>up</strong> both Quarter-over-Quarter and Year-over-Year(by netting out the impact of Legacy Research). Therefore, we think that MarketWise deserves a re-rating in multiple, as it continues to show that the core business is solid, even without Legacy Research.</p><p>Moreover, what investors <em>think</em> is an organic decline in revenue and subscriber counts, seems to us as just an effect of the winding-down of Legacy Research, with the core business still going strong. For example:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!6tU3!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F784f5b62-7300-47d9-bdc2-a4d0829621df_964x170.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!6tU3!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F784f5b62-7300-47d9-bdc2-a4d0829621df_964x170.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!6tU3!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F784f5b62-7300-47d9-bdc2-a4d0829621df_964x170.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!6tU3!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F784f5b62-7300-47d9-bdc2-a4d0829621df_964x170.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!6tU3!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F784f5b62-7300-47d9-bdc2-a4d0829621df_964x170.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!6tU3!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F784f5b62-7300-47d9-bdc2-a4d0829621df_964x170.png" width="964" height="170" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/784f5b62-7300-47d9-bdc2-a4d0829621df_964x170.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:170,&quot;width&quot;:964,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:31698,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:&quot;https://researchragnarok.substack.com/i/169114088?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F784f5b62-7300-47d9-bdc2-a4d0829621df_964x170.png&quot;,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!6tU3!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F784f5b62-7300-47d9-bdc2-a4d0829621df_964x170.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!6tU3!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F784f5b62-7300-47d9-bdc2-a4d0829621df_964x170.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!6tU3!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F784f5b62-7300-47d9-bdc2-a4d0829621df_964x170.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!6tU3!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F784f5b62-7300-47d9-bdc2-a4d0829621df_964x170.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>While investors might be spooked by reading that little passage, here is our takeaway: <em><strong>The only users that are leaving, are the low quality, low ARPU ones.</strong></em></p><p>This is also evident in the fact that quarter-over-quarter ARPU has gone UP while subscriber numbers have gone down. This signals to us that the current customer churn is that of the low-quality Legacy Research users:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ZM6h!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff0aefa70-896c-49e4-9a33-3dd15832849a_870x387.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ZM6h!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff0aefa70-896c-49e4-9a33-3dd15832849a_870x387.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ZM6h!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff0aefa70-896c-49e4-9a33-3dd15832849a_870x387.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ZM6h!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff0aefa70-896c-49e4-9a33-3dd15832849a_870x387.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ZM6h!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff0aefa70-896c-49e4-9a33-3dd15832849a_870x387.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ZM6h!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff0aefa70-896c-49e4-9a33-3dd15832849a_870x387.png" width="870" height="387" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/f0aefa70-896c-49e4-9a33-3dd15832849a_870x387.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:387,&quot;width&quot;:870,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:66433,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:&quot;https://researchragnarok.substack.com/i/169114088?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff0aefa70-896c-49e4-9a33-3dd15832849a_870x387.png&quot;,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ZM6h!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff0aefa70-896c-49e4-9a33-3dd15832849a_870x387.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ZM6h!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff0aefa70-896c-49e4-9a33-3dd15832849a_870x387.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ZM6h!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff0aefa70-896c-49e4-9a33-3dd15832849a_870x387.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ZM6h!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff0aefa70-896c-49e4-9a33-3dd15832849a_870x387.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>Sure. Some subscribers are leaving, and this might be a negative for a business. But to punish it by rerating it to a 0.96x price-to-sales, and a 4.9x price-to-earnings is just absurd to us, and we think this is a product of the market over-estimating core-business churn and confusing it with low-quality Legacy Research users. Essentially, the company went from being priced to perfection, to being priced to achieve nothing!</p><p></p><p>Now that the winding down of Legacy Research is mostly completed, we think that MKTW deserves a fresh start by the market as a 4.9x PE company with a healthy balance sheet with potential to grow. The market punished the company by taking it to 60$ a share to about 20$ because of the loss of Legacy Research, but we think that this loss is <em>more</em> than priced in, and the market is overestimating the value of Legacy Research that MKTW lost. Now, it is undervalued with lots of potential to grow. In order to put into context how much potential it has, we analysed web traffic data and deduced that the 2 biggest companies MKTW owns are Stansberry and Brownstone Research. Here is how the  data looks for the main companies MKTW owns:</p><h5>Stansberry Research:</h5><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!xq90!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff740a2c7-a8c8-475e-b991-748ed30f2498_1044x178.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!xq90!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff740a2c7-a8c8-475e-b991-748ed30f2498_1044x178.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!xq90!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff740a2c7-a8c8-475e-b991-748ed30f2498_1044x178.png 848w, 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recent jump in<a href="https://www.semrush.com/analytics/overview/?q=stansberryresearch.com&amp;searchType=domain&amp;protocol=https"> organic traffic</a> to Stansberry research</p><p>We think a large part of this is due to  former NYC mayor candidate and investor Whitney Tilson being an editor at Stansberry:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!1Gnc!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fcf36c411-d7e9-4c6c-ab4c-371472968614_1335x348.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!1Gnc!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fcf36c411-d7e9-4c6c-ab4c-371472968614_1335x348.png 424w, 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stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>Moreover, Google trends data shows heightened search activity in Q2 2025:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!aACp!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F97efe865-58d5-44f7-871d-74129ded376c_1011x508.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!aACp!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F97efe865-58d5-44f7-871d-74129ded376c_1011x508.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!aACp!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F97efe865-58d5-44f7-871d-74129ded376c_1011x508.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!aACp!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F97efe865-58d5-44f7-871d-74129ded376c_1011x508.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!aACp!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F97efe865-58d5-44f7-871d-74129ded376c_1011x508.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!aACp!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F97efe865-58d5-44f7-871d-74129ded376c_1011x508.png" width="1011" height="508" 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srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!aACp!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F97efe865-58d5-44f7-871d-74129ded376c_1011x508.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!aACp!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F97efe865-58d5-44f7-871d-74129ded376c_1011x508.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!aACp!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F97efe865-58d5-44f7-871d-74129ded376c_1011x508.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!aACp!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F97efe865-58d5-44f7-871d-74129ded376c_1011x508.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>As can be seen above, the higher relative interest points on the graph fall on dates within the Q2-Q3 2025 range. What we find further encouraging is the following:</p><p></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!9SDA!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F002c894a-873e-42da-a193-421712169ee3_445x166.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!9SDA!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F002c894a-873e-42da-a193-421712169ee3_445x166.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!9SDA!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F002c894a-873e-42da-a193-421712169ee3_445x166.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!9SDA!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F002c894a-873e-42da-a193-421712169ee3_445x166.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!9SDA!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F002c894a-873e-42da-a193-421712169ee3_445x166.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!9SDA!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F002c894a-873e-42da-a193-421712169ee3_445x166.png" width="445" height="166" 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srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!9SDA!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F002c894a-873e-42da-a193-421712169ee3_445x166.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!9SDA!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F002c894a-873e-42da-a193-421712169ee3_445x166.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!9SDA!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F002c894a-873e-42da-a193-421712169ee3_445x166.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!9SDA!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F002c894a-873e-42da-a193-421712169ee3_445x166.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>50% Increases form the previous time period in relative search volumes for the login pages of Stansberry and the website itself!</p><h4>Brownstone Research:</h4><p></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!vDGa!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc9044f97-edc1-4879-91be-98bd040c9b8e_1034x320.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!vDGa!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc9044f97-edc1-4879-91be-98bd040c9b8e_1034x320.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!vDGa!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc9044f97-edc1-4879-91be-98bd040c9b8e_1034x320.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!vDGa!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc9044f97-edc1-4879-91be-98bd040c9b8e_1034x320.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!vDGa!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc9044f97-edc1-4879-91be-98bd040c9b8e_1034x320.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!vDGa!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc9044f97-edc1-4879-91be-98bd040c9b8e_1034x320.png" width="1034" height="320" 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stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>Organic Search traffic has risen about 100% since Feb 2025, with Google trends data showing something similarly encouraging:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Q6gT!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbc6df6ef-e34b-4023-9601-2ab4df36992c_986x509.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>As can be seen, high search volume relative to that seen in January 2025 has increased in frequency in the Q2-Q3 2025 range, and we think this growth is stable. The most encouraging statistic is what we display below:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!7XRF!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F65b3360e-7246-4990-a209-2064e616c284_523x345.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!7XRF!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F65b3360e-7246-4990-a209-2064e616c284_523x345.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!7XRF!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F65b3360e-7246-4990-a209-2064e616c284_523x345.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!7XRF!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F65b3360e-7246-4990-a209-2064e616c284_523x345.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!7XRF!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F65b3360e-7246-4990-a209-2064e616c284_523x345.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!7XRF!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F65b3360e-7246-4990-a209-2064e616c284_523x345.png" width="523" height="345" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/65b3360e-7246-4990-a209-2064e616c284_523x345.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:345,&quot;width&quot;:523,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:22660,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:&quot;https://researchragnarok.substack.com/i/169114088?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F65b3360e-7246-4990-a209-2064e616c284_523x345.png&quot;,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!7XRF!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F65b3360e-7246-4990-a209-2064e616c284_523x345.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!7XRF!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F65b3360e-7246-4990-a209-2064e616c284_523x345.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!7XRF!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F65b3360e-7246-4990-a209-2064e616c284_523x345.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!7XRF!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F65b3360e-7246-4990-a209-2064e616c284_523x345.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p></p><p>Search volumes for the members url has been on a tear, but also the secure site of Brownstone. For context, secure.brownstone.research is the checkout site where users go to pay for their subscriptions!</p><p></p><h3>Management has committed to improving shareholder returns by authorising a 50 million dollar buyback, and has proved that they have shareholder&#8217;s best interests in the past. This should help re-rate MKTW from a cheap 4.9x PE stock to a more accurate valuation</h3><p>A casual look at the balance sheet reveals that net effective cash balance is around 37 million dollars:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!xJl1!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ffc3f02d1-2030-4624-9a06-0c605bafa2f4_1112x945.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!xJl1!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ffc3f02d1-2030-4624-9a06-0c605bafa2f4_1112x945.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!xJl1!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ffc3f02d1-2030-4624-9a06-0c605bafa2f4_1112x945.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!xJl1!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ffc3f02d1-2030-4624-9a06-0c605bafa2f4_1112x945.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!xJl1!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ffc3f02d1-2030-4624-9a06-0c605bafa2f4_1112x945.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!xJl1!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ffc3f02d1-2030-4624-9a06-0c605bafa2f4_1112x945.png" width="1112" height="945" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/fc3f02d1-2030-4624-9a06-0c605bafa2f4_1112x945.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:945,&quot;width&quot;:1112,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:92702,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:&quot;https://researchragnarok.substack.com/i/169114088?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ffc3f02d1-2030-4624-9a06-0c605bafa2f4_1112x945.png&quot;,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!xJl1!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ffc3f02d1-2030-4624-9a06-0c605bafa2f4_1112x945.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!xJl1!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ffc3f02d1-2030-4624-9a06-0c605bafa2f4_1112x945.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!xJl1!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ffc3f02d1-2030-4624-9a06-0c605bafa2f4_1112x945.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!xJl1!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ffc3f02d1-2030-4624-9a06-0c605bafa2f4_1112x945.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>79 million cash -  457 Million Total liabilities + 415 million Total deferred revenue = 37 million dollars net effective cash.</p><p></p><p>Now the company had 97 million dollars in cash in Q4 2024 but it reduced to 79 million due to some initiatives that management took to instil shareholder confidence. 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stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p></p><p>And even more impressively, a 50 million dollar buyback authorisation:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!bKfT!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0c7c2000-e625-461a-8631-881c644cf062_787x566.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!bKfT!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0c7c2000-e625-461a-8631-881c644cf062_787x566.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!bKfT!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0c7c2000-e625-461a-8631-881c644cf062_787x566.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!bKfT!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0c7c2000-e625-461a-8631-881c644cf062_787x566.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!bKfT!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0c7c2000-e625-461a-8631-881c644cf062_787x566.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!bKfT!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0c7c2000-e625-461a-8631-881c644cf062_787x566.png" width="787" height="566" 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stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>The best part is that management disclosed that they commenced repurchases in Q2 2025:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!w2M_!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb935c7db-606e-4a6e-b7bd-b9c8d9ff78d4_1139x338.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>We think this is a great decision, because one of the few things that can bridge the valuation gap between a &#8216;value&#8216; company and a reasonably priced company is enhancement of shareholder value and improving capital allocation. So, when you take a healthy balance sheet enhancing shareholder return through buybacks along with growing billings and a potential for strong revenue and earnings, you get a <strong>buy opportunity!</strong></p><p></p><h3>Mild insider-buying by the CFO:</h3><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!TG1T!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe1b64985-4392-4290-ac7d-86498e50f718_1413x389.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!TG1T!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe1b64985-4392-4290-ac7d-86498e50f718_1413x389.png 424w, 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stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>The insider buy by the CFO is <em>just</em> a  16k buy, but it isn&#8217;t nothing, and we thinkt hat him buying this amount in such an illiquid stock trading about 300k USD a day is a good enough vote of confidence to us</p><p></p><p></p><h4>How we are playing this:</h4><p>We plan on buying and selling at around 25-30$, depending on how the rest of the portfolio is doing. If the market has a bad reaction to earnings, we will study it and put out our own interpretation of the earnings and revise our outlook based on what is being reported, and close our position if our thesis is  proven invalid in any way.</p><p><em>By reading any of our posts, you agree to do your own due diligence before making any investment decisions. You agree that the authors of this publication are in no way responsible for your investment decisions, and are not liable for any of your possible investment losses, and you also agree to acknowledge that we are do not guarantee any accuracy in our research. You agree to also not proceed with any legal action against us.<br><br>The authors of this publication do not give any buy or sell recommendations and do not ensure any correctness to our claims or findings. Under no circumstances would you hold the authors liable for any investment losses. One should assume that any sentence or statement in our posts can be inaccurate and factually incorrect and should not influence anyone&#8217;s investing.<br>Sincerely,<br>Ragnarok Research</em></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><h3></h3><p></p><p></p><p></p>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[LONG AEI: A 13-million dollar company with 20 million dollars of net cash aiming to improve shareholder returns via stock buybacks, paired with an extremely incentivised CEO. PT >1.5$]]></title><description><![CDATA[Disclosure: Ragnarok Research is LONG AIE. Do your own due diligence.]]></description><link>https://researchragnarok.com/p/long-aei-a-13-million-dollar-company</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://researchragnarok.com/p/long-aei-a-13-million-dollar-company</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Ragnarok Research]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2025 13:45:20 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!agL_!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4628706f-a5b9-47d7-a5c5-94df108b2538_908x790.png" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While the rest of the market chases high valuation names with strong &#8216;growth&#8216; potentials, we are much more intrigued by the hidden gems trading at a depressed valuation due to the market overlooking value in the balance sheet, just because the value in the income statement has diminished.</p><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://researchragnarok.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">Thanks for reading! Subscribe for free to receive new posts and support my work.</p></div><form class="subscription-widget-subscribe"><input type="email" class="email-input" name="email" placeholder="Type your email&#8230;" tabindex="-1"><input type="submit" class="button primary" value="Subscribe"><div class="fake-input-wrapper"><div class="fake-input"></div><div class="fake-button"></div></div></form></div></div><p></p><p>Today we present to you AEI: Alset Inc. At first glance, the share price performance has been abysmal</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!agL_!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4628706f-a5b9-47d7-a5c5-94df108b2538_908x790.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!agL_!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4628706f-a5b9-47d7-a5c5-94df108b2538_908x790.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!agL_!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4628706f-a5b9-47d7-a5c5-94df108b2538_908x790.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!agL_!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4628706f-a5b9-47d7-a5c5-94df108b2538_908x790.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!agL_!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4628706f-a5b9-47d7-a5c5-94df108b2538_908x790.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!agL_!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4628706f-a5b9-47d7-a5c5-94df108b2538_908x790.png" width="908" height="790" 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class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>AEI&#8217;s main business is real estate:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!jUEF!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc2edcc85-eec8-4d6b-a13a-e1b41051dacb_1238x570.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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Before AEI&#8217;s full pivot into its current business iteration, AEI served as a &#8216;solar home maker/installer&#8216; for none other than<a href="https://www.alsetehome.com/solar-energy-system"> Tesla</a></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!YjFA!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8920836e-1d3a-46f7-9a62-5f8232e4186b_962x655.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!YjFA!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8920836e-1d3a-46f7-9a62-5f8232e4186b_962x655.png 424w, 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However, for whatever reason, the deal either did not materialize or AEI pivoted away from this, which is one of the primary reasons for the share price drop, and we think shares haven&#8217;t recovered due to the illiquidity, and complicated structure in the company. However, in this nanocap valuation, we think AEI is a buy for the following very simple reasons:</p><h4><strong>AEI, with a market cap of 13 million, has about 20 million dollars in cash. Dissatisfied with where they are trading, the company has  announced a 1 million dollar buyback using this cash.</strong></h4><p>At the most recent Q1 2025 financials, AEI had about 25 million dollars worth of cash:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!nu32!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1481ca9d-535e-4b4c-9a37-825b0a589ed3_857x596.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!nu32!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1481ca9d-535e-4b4c-9a37-825b0a589ed3_857x596.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!nu32!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1481ca9d-535e-4b4c-9a37-825b0a589ed3_857x596.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!nu32!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1481ca9d-535e-4b4c-9a37-825b0a589ed3_857x596.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!nu32!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1481ca9d-535e-4b4c-9a37-825b0a589ed3_857x596.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!nu32!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1481ca9d-535e-4b4c-9a37-825b0a589ed3_857x596.png" width="857" height="596" 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class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>And a total liability balance of 5 million dollars:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!pU4l!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fde7935a7-3e6f-43c6-ad28-e87deafac383_770x239.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!pU4l!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fde7935a7-3e6f-43c6-ad28-e87deafac383_770x239.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!pU4l!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fde7935a7-3e6f-43c6-ad28-e87deafac383_770x239.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!pU4l!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fde7935a7-3e6f-43c6-ad28-e87deafac383_770x239.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!pU4l!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fde7935a7-3e6f-43c6-ad28-e87deafac383_770x239.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img 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gives a total net cash balance of about 20 million dollars, a hugely comfortable position for a company with a market cap of 13 million dollars.</p><p>However, we all hate cash squatting companies that don&#8217;t allocate any of that extra cash for the benefit of their shareholders, which might be one of the reasons the stock is trading so low! The company has not taken any steps to turn the balance sheet value into shareholder value. This was until we saw the following announcement by the company:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!bUTh!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff5e766da-2078-4099-aa6d-bf59c260b82a_881x395.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!bUTh!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff5e766da-2078-4099-aa6d-bf59c260b82a_881x395.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!bUTh!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff5e766da-2078-4099-aa6d-bf59c260b82a_881x395.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!bUTh!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff5e766da-2078-4099-aa6d-bf59c260b82a_881x395.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!bUTh!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff5e766da-2078-4099-aa6d-bf59c260b82a_881x395.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!bUTh!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff5e766da-2078-4099-aa6d-bf59c260b82a_881x395.png" width="881" height="395" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/f5e766da-2078-4099-aa6d-bf59c260b82a_881x395.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:395,&quot;width&quot;:881,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:70586,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:&quot;https://researchragnarok.substack.com/i/168304199?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff5e766da-2078-4099-aa6d-bf59c260b82a_881x395.png&quot;,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!bUTh!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff5e766da-2078-4099-aa6d-bf59c260b82a_881x395.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!bUTh!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff5e766da-2078-4099-aa6d-bf59c260b82a_881x395.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!bUTh!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff5e766da-2078-4099-aa6d-bf59c260b82a_881x395.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!bUTh!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff5e766da-2078-4099-aa6d-bf59c260b82a_881x395.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>This buyback plan, if executed, would retire about 8% of the company&#8217;s shares by December 2025. Looks like the company <em>finally</em> got the memo! This is a company actively turning its <em>potential</em> balance sheet value into shareholder value! This is a huge part of why we are long.</p><h4>Along with this cash, AEI owns about 132 single family residential properties as well, which while we don&#8217;t exactly see as &#8216;liquid&#8217; investments, it still counts for something.</h4><p>In the extremely unlikely scenario where the company enters a state where it needs to squabble for cash, it still owns about 132 Single Family properties:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!j5W3!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fab6507a0-fc7f-4d77-a2bf-dc9f2cacbfe5_814x399.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>Note that the place these homes are located is in Montgomery and Harris Counties, with the <a href="https://www.redfin.com/city/12586/TX/Montgomery/housing-market">median house prices</a> in this region increasing over the past 3 years:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!8QT5!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2d4cc127-6cd0-4893-8df7-fcb54542d6bc_1388x415.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>In fact, in late 2024, AEI, through its subsidiary, sold some of its residential properties for <a href="https://in.investing.com/news/company-news/alset-inc-completes-39-million-land-sale-93CH-4472901">4 million dollars</a>:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!yjKk!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6b3704ec-5cca-413b-b791-0d79b1612b28_1132x665.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>Moreover, Finviz actually shows these two huge insider sale bars by the CEO:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!WpA1!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F32c14f5a-f6d8-47c2-8916-5e45390b9e83_1392x339.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!WpA1!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F32c14f5a-f6d8-47c2-8916-5e45390b9e83_1392x339.png" width="1392" height="339" 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loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><p><br></p><p>When in reality, these insider sales actually pertain to the CEO selling his shares in <em>another</em> public company with ticker IBO:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!aVMl!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0b3dd09f-85a9-4910-b36e-efd82f1d1a9f_1032x712.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!aVMl!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0b3dd09f-85a9-4910-b36e-efd82f1d1a9f_1032x712.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!aVMl!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0b3dd09f-85a9-4910-b36e-efd82f1d1a9f_1032x712.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!aVMl!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0b3dd09f-85a9-4910-b36e-efd82f1d1a9f_1032x712.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!aVMl!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0b3dd09f-85a9-4910-b36e-efd82f1d1a9f_1032x712.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!aVMl!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0b3dd09f-85a9-4910-b36e-efd82f1d1a9f_1032x712.png" width="1032" height="712" 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We think the consistent buys from the CEO, in addition to the announced 1 million dollar buyback to drive value creation is all the signs that we need that value will be returned to shareholders, and that this deep value shitco could be a pretty good investment.</p><h4></h4><p></p><h4>Conclusion</h4><p>At the end of the day, &#8216;sophisticated&#8216; investors would shun the stock due to an unreliable income source and due to its narrational pivot away from Tesla. However, there is a tremendous amount of value to be found in the balance sheet, and we have initiated a position now knowing that management is committed to return this to value to shareholders. Sure. It is a nanocap shitco. However, that is what deep value investing is about, and we think that this name has more value to offer than the market perceives.</p><p><em>By reading any of our posts, you agree to do your own due diligence before making any investment decisions. You agree that the authors of this publication are in no way responsible for your investment decisions, and are not liable for any of your possible investment losses, and you also agree to acknowledge that we are do not guarantee any accuracy in our research. You agree to also not proceed with any legal action against us.<br><br>The authors of this publication do not give any buy or sell recommendations and do not ensure any correctness to our claims or findings. Under no circumstances would you hold the authors liable for any investment losses. One should assume that any sentence or statement in our posts can be inaccurate and factually incorrect and should not influence anyone&#8217;s investing.<br>Sincerely,<br>Ragnarok Research</em></p><p></p><p></p>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[NMTC: NeuroOne Medical Technologies. Recommendation: Strong buy. PT: 2$]]></title><description><![CDATA[Do your own Due diligence. Disclosure: We are LONG the shares of NMTC]]></description><link>https://researchragnarok.com/p/nmtc-neuroone-medical-technologies</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://researchragnarok.com/p/nmtc-neuroone-medical-technologies</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Ragnarok Research]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2025 12:27:19 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!JpFz!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fce02c7cc-a7d4-41f9-9bae-2cf8f17e9b3d_597x306.png" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Introduction</strong></p><p>NeuroOne Medical Technologies Corp. (NASDAQ: NMTC) is a micro-cap medtech innovator currently trading at sa compelling valuation, with a market cap of approximately $30 million. Specializing in minimally invasive diagnostic and therapeutic devices, NMTC focuses primarily on neurological disorders, especially epilepsy&#8212;a massive, underserved, and chronic market. Its flagship innovation, the OneRF Ablation System, is the <strong>only FDA-cleared sEEG-guided radiofrequency ablation (RF) platform</strong>, offering both diagnostic and therapeutic utility:</p><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://researchragnarok.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">Thanks for reading! 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These events, while ostensibly negative, provide an asymmetric opportunity for investors willing to look through temporary volatility.</p><p>The <a href="https://nmtc1.com/onerf">OneRF system</a> is a major part of NMTC&#8217;s portfolio, since it is the only FDA-cleared sEEG-RF system:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!JpFz!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fce02c7cc-a7d4-41f9-9bae-2cf8f17e9b3d_597x306.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!JpFz!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fce02c7cc-a7d4-41f9-9bae-2cf8f17e9b3d_597x306.png 424w, 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The recent decline was triggered by two primary catalysts. First, on April 3rd, macroeconomic fears surrounding tariff implementations led to a broad-based market selloff, impacting even companies with no international exposure:<br></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!wKfn!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0d388f09-849d-479e-a324-fea95f560b02_1096x601.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!wKfn!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0d388f09-849d-479e-a324-fea95f560b02_1096x601.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!wKfn!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0d388f09-849d-479e-a324-fea95f560b02_1096x601.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!wKfn!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0d388f09-849d-479e-a324-fea95f560b02_1096x601.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!wKfn!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0d388f09-849d-479e-a324-fea95f560b02_1096x601.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!wKfn!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0d388f09-849d-479e-a324-fea95f560b02_1096x601.png" width="1096" height="601" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/0d388f09-849d-479e-a324-fea95f560b02_1096x601.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:601,&quot;width&quot;:1096,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!wKfn!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0d388f09-849d-479e-a324-fea95f560b02_1096x601.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!wKfn!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0d388f09-849d-479e-a324-fea95f560b02_1096x601.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!wKfn!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0d388f09-849d-479e-a324-fea95f560b02_1096x601.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!wKfn!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0d388f09-849d-479e-a324-fea95f560b02_1096x601.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p><br> Second, NMTC <strong>executed a $7 million equity raise</strong>, diluting existing shareholders. While the market reacted negatively to these events, a deeper dive reveals that neither has any bearing on NMTC&#8217;s long-term fundamentals. <br><br><strong>Executive Summary:</strong></p><ul><li><p><strong>Zimmer Biomet</strong> signed an exclusive distribution deal for NMTC&#8217;s FDA-cleared OneRF Ablation System, paying $3M upfront with potential for $1M in milestones. Zimmer &#8216;picked&#8217; NMTC&#8217;s product to market and distribute<br><br></p></li><li><p>Product revenue <strong>tripled </strong>year-over-year, growing from $0.9M to $3.2M &#8212; before Zimmer&#8217;s commercial rollout began. Ask yourselves: what will be the impact <em><strong>after</strong></em><strong> </strong>Zimmer clusters the platform with the portfolio?<br><br></p></li><li><p>Recent capital raise and Zimmer payment extend NMTC&#8217;s cash runway through FY 2026, <strong>resolving prior liquidity concerns.</strong><br><br></p></li><li><p><strong>No tariff exposure</strong> &#8212; all suppliers are U.S.-based, and NMTC has confirmed no overseas shipping activity.<br><br></p></li><li><p><strong>A Fox New</strong>s segment spotlighted a patient going from 10 nightly seizures to zero using NMTC&#8217;s device &#8212; underscoring clinical impact and market potential.</p></li></ul><ul><li><p>NMCT&#8217;s President, CEO, and CFO together have bought about <strong>0.5% of NMCT&#8217;s market cap in the open market</strong></p></li><li><p>The market is poised to grow, giving NMCT a huge growth runway<br><br></p></li><li><p>NMCT&#8217;s product has a first-mover advantage, and has other advantages over the products, bolstering our confidence in its growth potential</p></li></ul><p><strong>Theses:</strong></p><p>The thesis boils down to the following points:</p><ul><li><p><strong>NMTC&#8217;s device has been &#8216;picked&#8217; by Zimmer Biomet. Zimmer, a reputable company, has bought the license to market and sell the OneRF ablation system, which should spur future growth.<br></strong>As stated in NMTC&#8217;s financial statement(Q1 2025):<br><em>&#8216;On October 25, 2024, the Company entered into the Zimmer Amended and Restated Distribution Agreement (the &#8220;Amendment&#8221;) with Zimmer pursuant to which the Company granted Zimmer the exclusive right and license to distribute its OneRF Ablation System for an upfront payment of $3.0 million, with eligibility for an additional $1.0 million payment from Zimmer upon achievement of certain specified net sales milestones.&#8217;</em><br>The strategic partnership with Zimmer Biomet, a <strong>$20 billion medtech co.</strong>, also represents a critical vote of confidence in NMTC&#8217;s technology and its potential to scale. Under the revised agreement signed in October 2024, Zimmer received exclusive rights to distribute the OneRF System in exchange for the upfront cash and a potential additional milestone-based payment. Zimmer&#8217;s proven commercial infrastructure and global reach offer NMTC a far more efficient pathway to market than it could achieve independently.</p></li><li><p><strong>NMTC&#8217;s quarterly </strong><em><strong>product </strong></em><strong>revenue(revenue from selling products </strong><em><strong>unrelated</strong></em><strong> to Zimmer&#8217;s license revenue) has grown more than 3-fold from last year<br>Now, </strong><em><strong>separate</strong></em><strong> to its agreement with Zimmer Biomet, NMTC&#8217;s products have been gaining increased traction externally. Here are the results from its most recent <a href="https://capedge.com/filing/1500198/0001213900-25-012511/NMTC-10Q-2025Q1">10-Q</a>:<br></strong></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!bX6P!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F32ecd1bc-013a-4e2a-b478-5e50de63b852_1000x374.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!bX6P!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F32ecd1bc-013a-4e2a-b478-5e50de63b852_1000x374.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!bX6P!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F32ecd1bc-013a-4e2a-b478-5e50de63b852_1000x374.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!bX6P!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F32ecd1bc-013a-4e2a-b478-5e50de63b852_1000x374.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!bX6P!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F32ecd1bc-013a-4e2a-b478-5e50de63b852_1000x374.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!bX6P!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F32ecd1bc-013a-4e2a-b478-5e50de63b852_1000x374.png" width="1000" height="374" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/32ecd1bc-013a-4e2a-b478-5e50de63b852_1000x374.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:374,&quot;width&quot;:1000,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!bX6P!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F32ecd1bc-013a-4e2a-b478-5e50de63b852_1000x374.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!bX6P!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F32ecd1bc-013a-4e2a-b478-5e50de63b852_1000x374.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!bX6P!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F32ecd1bc-013a-4e2a-b478-5e50de63b852_1000x374.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!bX6P!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F32ecd1bc-013a-4e2a-b478-5e50de63b852_1000x374.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p><strong><br>In terms of financial performance, NMTC is also showing signs of real traction. Excluding the Zimmer upfront revenue, organic product revenue for Q1 2025 exceeded $3.2 million, more than tripling from $0.9 million in the same quarter of the previous year. This surge in organic sales indicates increasing acceptance of NMTC&#8217;s devices within the neurology community and lays a strong foundation for Zimmer to build upon in future quarters.<br><br>Thus, we ask readers to consider the following: The product revenue(total revenue - license upfront payment) jumped to 3.2 million from 0.97 million from the year prior. How much </strong><em><strong>more</strong></em><strong> growth is in store for NMCT after Zimmer </strong><em><strong>fully </strong></em><strong><a href="https://www.globenewswire.com/news-release/2024/10/31/2973002/0/en/NeuroOne-Announces-Expansion-of-Existing-Distribution-Agreement-with-Zimmer-Biomet-for-Commercialization-of-OneRF-Ablation-System.html">integrates </a>the OneRF system into its portfolio:</strong></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!KZJi!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fea1c058a-0336-4b5b-853a-34c79100c9a0_605x259.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ddjA!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F54cde99d-1008-4db8-83b1-2ede16db111c_972x280.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ddjA!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F54cde99d-1008-4db8-83b1-2ede16db111c_972x280.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ddjA!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F54cde99d-1008-4db8-83b1-2ede16db111c_972x280.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ddjA!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F54cde99d-1008-4db8-83b1-2ede16db111c_972x280.png 1272w, 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Along with a $3 million upfront payment from Zimmer Biomet&#8212;its newly signed exclusive distributor&#8212;NMTC now has sufficient liquidity to operate through the end of fiscal year 2026. This marks a significant improvement from earlier financial statements that questioned whether NMTC could sustain operations beyond April 2025:<br></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!bgUA!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1c11ccdf-1a8e-42e1-a98c-b95c0f711a9e_723x253.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!bgUA!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1c11ccdf-1a8e-42e1-a98c-b95c0f711a9e_723x253.png 424w, 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y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p><a href="https://capedge.com/filing/1500198/0001213900-25-012511/NMTC-10Q-2025Q1">Source</a> <strong><br><br></strong></p></blockquote><ul><li><p><strong>There will be no tariff impact to NMTC whatsoever:<br></strong> In fact, NMTC has no overseas supply chain exposure whatsoever&#8212;all key components and manufacturing are sourced domestically within the U.S., a fact explicitly confirmed in a <a href="https://www.morningstar.com/news/globe-newswire/9423118/neuroone-issues-letter-to-shareholders">letter to shareholders</a>, NMTC clarified to investors that they have no tariff exposure whatsoever, since all their suppliers are housed in the United States. All of they key components are sourced and manufactured in the US:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!kSjW!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fadc668ce-6a26-4b91-b5e6-c1c0a5d25b19_664x178.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!kSjW!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fadc668ce-6a26-4b91-b5e6-c1c0a5d25b19_664x178.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!kSjW!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fadc668ce-6a26-4b91-b5e6-c1c0a5d25b19_664x178.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!kSjW!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fadc668ce-6a26-4b91-b5e6-c1c0a5d25b19_664x178.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!kSjW!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fadc668ce-6a26-4b91-b5e6-c1c0a5d25b19_664x178.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!kSjW!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fadc668ce-6a26-4b91-b5e6-c1c0a5d25b19_664x178.png" width="664" height="178" 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srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!kSjW!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fadc668ce-6a26-4b91-b5e6-c1c0a5d25b19_664x178.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!kSjW!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fadc668ce-6a26-4b91-b5e6-c1c0a5d25b19_664x178.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!kSjW!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fadc668ce-6a26-4b91-b5e6-c1c0a5d25b19_664x178.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!kSjW!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fadc668ce-6a26-4b91-b5e6-c1c0a5d25b19_664x178.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><p><br></p></li><li><p><strong>NMTC&#8217;s success story has been featured on Fox news, detailing the story of a girl who went from 10 nightly seizures to 0, with the help of NMTC&#8217;s device</strong></p></li></ul><blockquote><p>Just about 10 days ago, NMTC&#8217;s OneRF ablation device was featured in <a href="https://www.foxnews.com/tech/teen-goes-from-10-nightly-seizures-zero-brain-implant">Fox news</a> due to it helping a teenager go from &#8216;10 nightly seizures to 0&#8217;:<br></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!VyTr!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F45d63d63-3593-4358-aef6-1f85b0944083_1503x352.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!VyTr!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F45d63d63-3593-4358-aef6-1f85b0944083_1503x352.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!VyTr!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F45d63d63-3593-4358-aef6-1f85b0944083_1503x352.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!VyTr!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F45d63d63-3593-4358-aef6-1f85b0944083_1503x352.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!VyTr!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F45d63d63-3593-4358-aef6-1f85b0944083_1503x352.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!VyTr!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F45d63d63-3593-4358-aef6-1f85b0944083_1503x352.png" width="1456" height="341" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/45d63d63-3593-4358-aef6-1f85b0944083_1503x352.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:341,&quot;width&quot;:1456,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!VyTr!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F45d63d63-3593-4358-aef6-1f85b0944083_1503x352.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!VyTr!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F45d63d63-3593-4358-aef6-1f85b0944083_1503x352.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!VyTr!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F45d63d63-3593-4358-aef6-1f85b0944083_1503x352.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!VyTr!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F45d63d63-3593-4358-aef6-1f85b0944083_1503x352.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>The best part is the patient is now completely seizure-free:<br></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!cqcJ!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0920b6e2-4254-4f44-b2d6-f556aa2e982f_1156x265.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!cqcJ!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0920b6e2-4254-4f44-b2d6-f556aa2e982f_1156x265.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!cqcJ!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0920b6e2-4254-4f44-b2d6-f556aa2e982f_1156x265.png 848w, 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data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/0920b6e2-4254-4f44-b2d6-f556aa2e982f_1156x265.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:265,&quot;width&quot;:1156,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!cqcJ!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0920b6e2-4254-4f44-b2d6-f556aa2e982f_1156x265.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!cqcJ!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0920b6e2-4254-4f44-b2d6-f556aa2e982f_1156x265.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!cqcJ!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0920b6e2-4254-4f44-b2d6-f556aa2e982f_1156x265.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!cqcJ!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0920b6e2-4254-4f44-b2d6-f556aa2e982f_1156x265.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>Further underscoring the clinical potential of NMTC&#8217;s product is the public attention it has garnered. Just over a week ago, a Fox News segment detailed the story of a teenage girl who experienced a dramatic reduction in seizure frequency&#8212;from ten nightly episodes to none&#8212;after being treated with the OneRF system. This story, while anecdotal, provides compelling human validation of the device&#8217;s effectiveness and reinforces its unique position in the therapeutic landscape. NMTC is not just developing technology&#8212;it is changing lives, and stories like this one will likely help raise awareness and adoption over time.</p></blockquote><ul><li><p><strong>NMCT&#8217;s President, CEO, and CFO together have bought about 0.5% of NMCT&#8217;s market cap in the open market:</strong><br>In a strong vote of confidence, NeuroOne Medical Technologies' President, CEO, and CFO have collectively purchased approximately 0.5% of the company&#8217;s total market capitalization in the open market just about 2-3 weeks ago:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!XfOZ!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F297534bc-15ab-44fb-ac1c-c971b2c12045_633x253.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p><br> Insider buying at this scale&#8212;particularly from top executive leadership&#8212;sends a powerful signal to investors. It reflects management&#8217;s conviction in the company&#8217;s long-term prospects and their belief that the current share price significantly undervalues NMTC&#8217;s true potential. This alignment of interests between executives and shareholders is especially meaningful for a micro-cap company, where leadership plays a critical role in execution, capital allocation, and investor trust. Such open-market purchases serve as a tangible indicator that those closest to the company&#8217;s operations view the recent selloff as a mispricing, not a reflection of deteriorating fundamentals.</p></li><li></li></ul><p>.</p><h3><strong>Market Analysis of Epilepsy</strong></h3><p>According to a 2024 report by <em><a href="https://www.globenewswire.com/news-release/2024/11/19/2983849/0/en/Latest-Global-Epilepsy-Treatment-Devices-Market-Size-Share-Worth-USD-787-3-Million-by-2033-at-a-4-1-CAGR-Custom-Market-Insights-Analysis-Outlook-Leaders-Report-Trends-Forecast-Segm.html">GlobeNewswire</a></em><a href="https://www.globenewswire.com/news-release/2024/11/19/2983849/0/en/Latest-Global-Epilepsy-Treatment-Devices-Market-Size-Share-Worth-USD-787-3-Million-by-2033-at-a-4-1-CAGR-Custom-Market-Insights-Analysis-Outlook-Leaders-Report-Trends-Forecast-Segm.html"> (Custom Market Insights)</a>, the global epilepsy treatment devices market was valued at approximately USD 526.8 million in 2023 and is projected to reach USD 548.4 million in 2024. By 2033, it is expected to grow to around USD 787.3 million, representing a compound annual growth rate (CAGR) of 4.1% from 2024 to 2033. Key drivers of this growth include advancements in neurostimulation technologies such as Vagus Nerve Stimulation (VNS), Responsive Neurostimulation (RNS), and Deep Brain Stimulation (DBS). These developments involve improvements in electrode design, stimulation algorithms, and integration with advanced imaging and monitoring systems. Additionally, the aging population, improved diagnostics, government initiatives, and a trend toward minimally invasive surgical procedures are propelling demand.</p><div><hr></div><h3><strong>Product Analysis</strong></h3><p>NeuroOne&#8217;s flagship offering, the OneRF&#8482; Ablation System, holds a unique position in the epilepsy treatment market as the only FDA-cleared sEEG-guided radiofrequency (RF) platform that offers both diagnostic and therapeutic capabilities through a single electrode. This technological integration allows for streamlined procedures, which can reduce the number of surgeries required, shorten hospital stays, and even enable bedside ablations. The Evo sEEG and Evo cortical electrode platforms, which are also FDA-cleared, feature thin-film, high-resolution designs that aim to minimize immunological responses and improve signal quality. These electrodes have demonstrated clear benefits in clinical settings, such as at the Mayo Clinic, where they were used successfully for epilepsy mapping and cortical recordings. The thin, flexible design has been praised for conforming securely to the brain surface, reducing trauma, and producing high-fidelity recordings. NeuroOne is also developing new RF ablation systems, including a device for trigeminal neuralgia, with a 510(k) submission planned for early 2025. (<em><a href="https://www.biospace.com/neuroone-announces-first-clinical-case-using-evo-seeg-electrode-performed-at-mayo-clinic">BioSpace, 2020&#8211;2023</a>; Yahoo Finance, 2021; <a href="https://www.ainvest.com/news/neuroone-medical-technologies-nmtcturning-point-neurological-innovation-2504/">AInvest</a>, 2025</em>)</p><div><hr></div><h3><strong>Growth Potential</strong></h3><p>Although NeuroOne Medical Technologies Corp. (NMTC) currently represents a small portion of the epilepsy device market, its projected FY2025 product revenue of $8&#8211;10 million would equate to approximately 1.5&#8211;1.8% market share based on current figures. The potential for growth is underscored by its FDA-cleared OneRF system, which offers a first-mover advantage in sEEG-guided ablation. Through its exclusive distribution agreement with Zimmer Biomet&#8212;a globally recognized MedTech firm&#8212;NeuroOne gains access to a well-established sales network, which could accelerate hospital adoption. The company&#8217;s long-term outlook also includes expansion into additional indications and markets, such as trigeminal neuralgia and chronic pain, using its proprietary electrode technology.</p><p>If NeuroOne successfully penetrates the 200+ Level 4 epilepsy centers in the U.S., it could see significant revenue gains. For example, if 100 centers adopted the system and conducted 10 procedures annually at $10,000&#8211;$20,000 per procedure, annual revenues could range between $10&#8211;20 million. That alone would push NMTC&#8217;s market share toward 2&#8211;4% in the total epilepsy device space. With ongoing clinical validation&#8212;evidenced by over 90% seizure reduction in treated patients&#8212;and new CMS reimbursement codes supporting its usage, the company is well-positioned for broader adoption. (<em><a href="https://www.ainvest.com/news/neuroone-medical-technologies-nmtcturning-point-neurological-innovation-2504/">AInvest</a>, 2025; <a href="https://www.globenewswire.com/news-release/2024/11/19/2983849/0/en/Latest-Global-Epilepsy-Treatment-Devices-Market-Size-Share-Worth-USD-787-3-Million-by-2033-at-a-4-1-CAGR-Custom-Market-Insights-Analysis-Outlook-Leaders-Report-Trends-Forecast-Segm.html">GlobeNewswire</a>, 2024</em>)</p><div><hr></div><h3><strong>Mayo Clinic Connection</strong></h3><p>NeuroOne has had a longstanding collaborative and financial relationship with Mayo Clinic. The Evo cortical electrode and the Evo sEEG electrode technologies were both co-developed with Mayo Clinic and other academic institutions, including the Wisconsin Alumni Research Foundation (WARF). Mayo Clinic was not only involved in the early development of these platforms but also performed the first human commercial use of the Evo cortical electrode in December 2020 and the first clinical case using the Evo sEEG electrode in May 2023. Both procedures were conducted by Dr. Jamie Van Gompel, a noted neurosurgeon and co-developer of the technology, who praised the products for their thin-film design, secure brain conformance, and high-quality recordings.</p><p>In addition to its clinical role, Mayo Clinic made a financial investment in NeuroOne during Q2 2021, acquiring 181,754 shares at an average price of $7.01. This stake represented approximately 1.33% of Mayo&#8217;s investment portfolio at the time. Furthermore, Mayo Clinic and Dr. Van Gompel maintain financial interests in the technology, and any revenue received supports the institution&#8217;s non-profit mission. (<em><a href="https://www.biospace.com/neuroone-announces-first-clinical-case-using-evo-seeg-electrode-performed-at-mayo-clinic">BioSpace</a>, 2020 &amp; 2023; Yahoo Finance, 2021</em>)</p><p><strong>Conclusion</strong></p><h3><strong>Conclusion</strong></h3><p>NeuroOne Medical Technologies Corp. (NMTC) represents a compelling asymmetric investment opportunity in the medtech space, particularly within the underpenetrated and growing epilepsy treatment device market. Backed by a highly differentiated product&#8212;<em>the OneRF&#8482; Ablation System</em>&#8212;which uniquely combines diagnostic and therapeutic capabilities in a single, FDA-cleared platform, NMTC is well-positioned to capture share from a $500M+ global market projected to grow at a 4.1% CAGR.</p><p>The company&#8217;s recent momentum is underpinned by accelerating product revenue, strong clinical outcomes (over 90% seizure reduction in treated patients), and a transformative commercial partnership with Zimmer Biomet, one of the largest players in the global medical device industry. With Zimmer&#8217;s infrastructure now driving distribution, NMTC is poised for scalable growth, and its $3.2M in organic Q1 product revenue&#8212;<em>before full Zimmer rollout</em>&#8212;demonstrates significant early traction. Additional tailwinds include a newly issued CMS reimbursement code, potential expansion into other neurology indications like trigeminal neuralgia, and an extended cash runway through FY 2026 following a recent capital raise.</p><p>Beyond financials, NMTC&#8217;s credibility is bolstered by its longstanding relationship with Mayo Clinic, which not only co-developed its core technology but also became an early clinical adopter and financial backer. Insider buying by executive leadership further signals internal conviction in the company&#8217;s future prospects. Moreover, media attention, such as a Fox News story detailing a patient&#8217;s transformation from nightly seizures to complete seizure freedom using OneRF, reinforces the technology&#8217;s life-changing impact.</p><p>While risks remain&#8212;such as execution dependence on Zimmer Biomet, ongoing regulatory hurdles, and limited cash reserves&#8212;these are counterbalanced by the company&#8217;s unique IP, expanding product portfolio, improving financials, and strong strategic positioning. For investors with a high-risk tolerance and a long-term view, NMTC offers a rare combination of breakthrough technology, clinical validation, and early commercial momentum at a deeply discounted valuation. 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Amidst Trump&#8217;s tariff debacle, we want to stick to absurdly cheap companies who are undervalued on an absolute basis, rather than a &#8216;relative&#8217; basis. By buying BIOA, we are playing defense- and is a reflection of our strategy of transitioning from growth plays to cheap, undervalued &#8216;cigar butts&#8217;. Bioage is a rare company which holds value both in its balance sheet, and future growth prospects of its income statement. Our price target is a <strong>7$/sh.</strong></p><p><strong>Why does this opportunity exist?</strong></p><p>In December 2024, shares of BioAge Labs (NASDAQ: BIOA) tumbled significantly&#8212;dropping by over 76%&#8212;primarily because the company abruptly halted its STRIDES Phase 2 clinical trial for its experimental obesity drug candidate, Azelaprag. The trial was discontinued after several patients exhibited elevated liver enzymes (liver transaminitis), a safety signal that raised concerns about the tolerability and risk profile of the drug.</p><p>Now, investors thought BIOA has virtually nothing else to offer, prompting in the following share price action:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!HCZs!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc5b6708d-4114-4f34-a52e-ec3e87b043a0_547x366.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!HCZs!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc5b6708d-4114-4f34-a52e-ec3e87b043a0_547x366.png 424w, 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The gist of the first part of our report is that ZDGE trades at absurdly low valuations with GROWING revenue, with a set of very shareholder-friendly management. The reason for the abysmal share price performance is an acquisition that ZDGE made in 2022, a photographic game called Gurushots. We highlighted in part one how net income and operating income have been severely depressed due to Gurushots- exorbidant G&amp;A expenses to Gurushots employees coupled with low revenues is always a recipe for bottomline underperformance.</p><p>The diagram below should be a testament to how much of ZDGE&#8217;s core business&#8217; earnings resilience is being masked by Gurushots:<br></p><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://researchragnarok.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">Thanks for reading Ragnarok Research! Subscribe for free to receive new posts and support my work.</p></div><form class="subscription-widget-subscribe"><input type="email" class="email-input" name="email" placeholder="Type your email&#8230;" tabindex="-1"><input type="submit" class="button primary" value="Subscribe"><div class="fake-input-wrapper"><div class="fake-input"></div><div class="fake-button"></div></div></form></div></div><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!dFhA!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff218bdba-7666-47ad-aca1-8b1ba75fbbda_531x324.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!dFhA!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff218bdba-7666-47ad-aca1-8b1ba75fbbda_531x324.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!dFhA!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff218bdba-7666-47ad-aca1-8b1ba75fbbda_531x324.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!dFhA!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff218bdba-7666-47ad-aca1-8b1ba75fbbda_531x324.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!dFhA!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff218bdba-7666-47ad-aca1-8b1ba75fbbda_531x324.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!dFhA!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff218bdba-7666-47ad-aca1-8b1ba75fbbda_531x324.png" width="531" height="324" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/f218bdba-7666-47ad-aca1-8b1ba75fbbda_531x324.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:324,&quot;width&quot;:531,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:false,&quot;topImage&quot;:true,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!dFhA!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff218bdba-7666-47ad-aca1-8b1ba75fbbda_531x324.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!dFhA!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff218bdba-7666-47ad-aca1-8b1ba75fbbda_531x324.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!dFhA!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff218bdba-7666-47ad-aca1-8b1ba75fbbda_531x324.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!dFhA!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff218bdba-7666-47ad-aca1-8b1ba75fbbda_531x324.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" fetchpriority="high"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>However, this isn&#8217;t a bad thing. We highlighted in part I that because Gurushots is such a drag on ZDGE&#8217;s overall bottom line, even a slight improvement in Gurushots&#8217; operating structure should contribute to a material improvement in the holdco ZDGE&#8217;s bottom line- mainly via cost cutting and revenue expansion. Thankfully, management has taken notice of these issues, and has <a href="https://www.accessnewswire.com/newsroom/en/computers-technology-and-internet/zedge-increases-cost-reduction-efforts-to-a-targeted-4-million-ann-979919#:~:text=Combined%20with%20the%20actions%20announced,on%20a%20pre%2Dtax%20basis.">announced </a>a cost-cutting initiative, like reducing headcount by 22%, mostly impacting Gurushots. Sure. The PR also talks about &#8216;Gurushots 2.0&#8217;- an initiative to completely reimagine gameplay and monetisation policies to help Gurushots to <strong>add</strong> value to Zedge, rather than <strong>subtract it</strong>. Sure, they know exactly how to reduce costs and &#8216;leanify&#8217; Gurushots- but what about the revenue growth part ? What about inducing exploding growth to Gurushots ?<br><br>To answer these questions, we commissioned our own in-house research to see what went wrong with Gurushots via mass surveys and conversations with industry experts. We then shared our findings with ZDGE&#8217;s CEO and Gurushots&#8217; Product-head, and gained a lot more insight into how Gurushots 2.0 is going to be executed.</p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://researchragnarok.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe now&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="https://researchragnarok.com/subscribe?"><span>Subscribe now</span></a></p><p></p><h3>Since our advice to management, as well as our full interaction with them is embedded in a writeup that is too long for this substack, we have attached the PDF to this post. Please download it to read.</h3><p></p><div class="file-embed-wrapper" data-component-name="FileToDOM"><div class="file-embed-container-reader"><div class="file-embed-container-top"><image class="file-embed-thumbnail-default" src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!0Cy0!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack.com%2Fimg%2Fattachment_icon.svg"></image><div class="file-embed-details"><div class="file-embed-details-h1">Zdge Ii</div><div class="file-embed-details-h2">3.49MB &#8729; PDF file</div></div><a class="file-embed-button wide" href="https://researchragnarok.substack.com/api/v1/file/4284bbca-6ab2-44d6-8f34-102eb9d834fe.pdf"><span class="file-embed-button-text">Download</span></a></div><a class="file-embed-button narrow" href="https://researchragnarok.substack.com/api/v1/file/4284bbca-6ab2-44d6-8f34-102eb9d834fe.pdf"><span class="file-embed-button-text">Download</span></a></div></div><p></p><h3>Disclaimer:</h3><p>The authors of this publication do not give any buy or sell recommendations and do not ensure any correctness to our claims or findings. Under no circumstances would you hold the authors liable for any investment losses. One should assume that any sentence or statement in our posts can be inaccurate and factually incorrect and should not influence anyone&#8217;s investing.<br>Sincerely,<br>Ragnarok Research</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://researchragnarok.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">Thanks for reading Ragnarok Research! Subscribe for free to receive new posts and support my work.</p></div><form class="subscription-widget-subscribe"><input type="email" class="email-input" name="email" placeholder="Type your email&#8230;" tabindex="-1"><input type="submit" class="button primary" value="Subscribe"><div class="fake-input-wrapper"><div class="fake-input"></div><div class="fake-button"></div></div></form></div></div>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[LONG ZDGE: Shareholder-friendly Management is en-route to transform this doozy into a multibagger via a restructuring and turnaround with compelling margin of safety in ZDGE.]]></title><description><![CDATA[This is part I of a series of writeups we aim to publish where we present the compelling margin of safety in ZDGE, where even a failed turnaround can result in a 50-250% share price appreciation.]]></description><link>https://researchragnarok.com/p/long-zdge-shareholder-friendly-management</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://researchragnarok.com/p/long-zdge-shareholder-friendly-management</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Ragnarok Research]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 22 Jan 2025 16:19:39 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!gyiR!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F774630d0-faab-42dc-b964-92a033e26e9c_1016x445.png" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p></p><p></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!gyiR!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F774630d0-faab-42dc-b964-92a033e26e9c_1016x445.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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We think ZDGE symbolises all those attributes of a perfect investment, with a touch of long-activism from us.</p><p>ZDGE&#8217;s core business is resilient, and management is doing evetrything it can to bolster it up. ZDGE&#8217;s failing subsidiary however, needs help, and management launched a cost-saving program pertaining to it. In this deep-dive, we provide readers our reasons for which ZDGE, in a few years, will be a multibagger as per us, and we highlight the reasons why the stock price is down, and if management&#8217;s turnaround fails, we still see 50-250% upside in case of a divestiture. In part II of our writeup which will be released soon, we will provide management a roadmap to transform ZDGE from a Doozy into a multibagger. We also highlight how easy it is for a shareholder friendly management, like the present ZDGE management, to transform Gurushots into a money-maker- even if they don&#8217;t follow our guidelines.</p><p>We also point out the margin of safety- about 50% of the market cap is net cash with miniscule debt- with virtually no possibility of a bankruptcy! In our humble opinion, if management is smart, this investment is so safe that our <strong>bear case</strong> scenario in an efficient market is up 50% if the turnaround doesn&#8217;t work!</p><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://researchragnarok.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">Thanks for reading Ragnarok Research! Subscribe for free to receive new posts and support my work.</p></div><form class="subscription-widget-subscribe"><input type="email" class="email-input" name="email" placeholder="Type your email&#8230;" tabindex="-1"><input type="submit" class="button primary" value="Subscribe"><div class="fake-input-wrapper"><div class="fake-input"></div><div class="fake-button"></div></div></form></div></div><p></p><h3><strong>Investment thesis Summary:</strong></h3><ul><li><p><strong>Core Business Resilience</strong>: Zedge operates a steady and cash-generating phone personalization app business, contributing significantly to its revenues despite the fading COVID-era demand spike.</p></li><li><p><strong>Low Valuation &amp; Margin of Safety:</strong><br><strong>Valuation metric</strong>s are extremely attractive, with a Price-to-Sales ratio of 1.26 and an EV/EBITDA of 12x, indicating a heavily discounted stock.</p></li><li><p><strong>Strong balance sheet</strong> with $20 million in cash against a $38 million market cap, providing a significant margin of safety.</p></li><li><p><strong>Past Challenges</strong>: The ill-fated Gurushots acquisition temporarily dragged earnings into negative territory due to high costs and impairment charges. However, these write-offs are complete, removing a major overhang on the stock.</p></li></ul><ul><li><p><strong>Turnaround Potential:<br></strong>Management has announced a <strong>14% workforce reduction</strong>, focusing on Gurushots cost containment, signaling a renewed commitment to profitability.<br><br>Gurushots is now a <strong>low-risk "call option"</strong> within the company, since ZDGE has written off virtually all of Gurushot&#8217;s asset value that needed to be removed from its books. Even though Gurushots contributes to almost 100% of ZDGE&#8217;s operating losses, effective monetisation and earnings growth from Gurushots can help turn ZDGE into a multibagger.. <strong>In the part II of this Writeup, Ragnarok Research will give a blueprint that management can use to turnaround and restructure Gurushots!<br><br></strong></p></li><li><p><strong>Value-Generating Initiatives:<br></strong>Management is bolstering core business via<strong> strategic use of AI</strong> to enhance the core business by offering innovative phone customization options (e.g., AI-generated ringtones and wallpapers).<br><br>Aggressiv<strong>e share buyback</strong> programs&#8212;$5 million approved&#8212;retiring up to 13% of outstanding shares at current prices.</p></li></ul><ul><li><p><strong>Investment Safety</strong>: Even in the worst-case scenario, where Gurushots fails to turn around, a divestiture would substantially boost profitability and unlock shareholder value, which we estimate will drive share price 50-250% higher if management gives up on the turnaround and divests gurushots.</p></li></ul><ul><li><p><strong>Easy path for management: </strong>In this writeup we emphasise how clear of a path management has to implement a turnaround. In Part II, we will release steps management can take, after extensive DD- via testing of the gurushots platform, and conversations with users. Gurushots is a beloved brand in the photography community, especially amateurs, but they hate the pay-to-win aspect of Gurushots and if handled properly, which we believe management will do- especially if they follow our research and guides- will result in a multibagger.</p></li></ul><ul><li><p><strong>Compelling Upside</strong>: ZDGE is an undervalued stock which holds a key hidden underperforming asset which management is eyeing to bring back. A turnaround is definitely possible because all that needs to be fixed is the monetisation of gurushots and incentives. In the off-chance that this doesn&#8217;t work, ZDGE has a huge margin of safety due to its strong balance sheet, and a resilient core business, which if ZDGE focuses on solely by divesting gurushots, is worth about 50-250% more than it is valued today.</p></li></ul><p></p><h3><strong>Introduction</strong></h3><p>Zedge is a 38-million dollar company, valued 12x EV-EBITDA that makes an wallpaper app that you find in google play store, for which you can pay a small amount for custom animated wallpapers, and phone personalisation in general.By phone personalisation, we mean custom notification sounds, wallpapers, ringtones, etc., It isn&#8217;t a high-tech, attractive software company, which is partly the reason that it trades at a low valuation (1.26 Price-to-sales, and 8 Price-to-cash). The share price paints a story:<br></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!scfr!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff77e580c-8195-4dbf-b651-c9daa4ed0253_1016x445.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!scfr!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff77e580c-8195-4dbf-b651-c9daa4ed0253_1016x445.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!scfr!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff77e580c-8195-4dbf-b651-c9daa4ed0253_1016x445.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!scfr!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff77e580c-8195-4dbf-b651-c9daa4ed0253_1016x445.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!scfr!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff77e580c-8195-4dbf-b651-c9daa4ed0253_1016x445.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!scfr!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff77e580c-8195-4dbf-b651-c9daa4ed0253_1016x445.png" width="1016" height="445" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/f77e580c-8195-4dbf-b651-c9daa4ed0253_1016x445.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:445,&quot;width&quot;:1016,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!scfr!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff77e580c-8195-4dbf-b651-c9daa4ed0253_1016x445.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!scfr!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff77e580c-8195-4dbf-b651-c9daa4ed0253_1016x445.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!scfr!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff77e580c-8195-4dbf-b651-c9daa4ed0253_1016x445.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!scfr!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff77e580c-8195-4dbf-b651-c9daa4ed0253_1016x445.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>The stock started surging at 2020, the covid era, when bored users started splurging money on &#8216;phone customisation&#8217;, and as the covid hype faded away, the stock cratered. This is where the market made a mistake. The market correlated the stock directly to covid spending. For example, look at ZDGE&#8217;s revenue graph:<br></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!9N07!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7fb01e01-55ed-4620-b709-978ceee4dd3b_1504x313.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!9N07!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7fb01e01-55ed-4620-b709-978ceee4dd3b_1504x313.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!9N07!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7fb01e01-55ed-4620-b709-978ceee4dd3b_1504x313.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!9N07!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7fb01e01-55ed-4620-b709-978ceee4dd3b_1504x313.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!9N07!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7fb01e01-55ed-4620-b709-978ceee4dd3b_1504x313.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!9N07!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7fb01e01-55ed-4620-b709-978ceee4dd3b_1504x313.png" width="1456" height="303" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/7fb01e01-55ed-4620-b709-978ceee4dd3b_1504x313.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:303,&quot;width&quot;:1456,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!9N07!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7fb01e01-55ed-4620-b709-978ceee4dd3b_1504x313.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!9N07!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7fb01e01-55ed-4620-b709-978ceee4dd3b_1504x313.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!9N07!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7fb01e01-55ed-4620-b709-978ceee4dd3b_1504x313.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!9N07!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7fb01e01-55ed-4620-b709-978ceee4dd3b_1504x313.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://researchragnarok.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe now&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="https://researchragnarok.com/subscribe?"><span>Subscribe now</span></a></p><p>Revenue has been steadily rising even after covid effects subsided. In fact, it has tripled since 2020.</p><p>But then, surely the market can&#8217;t be <em>this</em> stupid, right ? Well, investors first sold ZDGE stock for the covid hype fading, but <strong>didnt buy them back</strong>due to Its <strong>earnings</strong>:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!kn_r!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8d6c6158-bdac-40e5-a3d8-bfbe0a089610_1524x224.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!kn_r!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8d6c6158-bdac-40e5-a3d8-bfbe0a089610_1524x224.png 424w, 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data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/8d6c6158-bdac-40e5-a3d8-bfbe0a089610_1524x224.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:214,&quot;width&quot;:1456,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!kn_r!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8d6c6158-bdac-40e5-a3d8-bfbe0a089610_1524x224.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!kn_r!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8d6c6158-bdac-40e5-a3d8-bfbe0a089610_1524x224.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!kn_r!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8d6c6158-bdac-40e5-a3d8-bfbe0a089610_1524x224.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!kn_r!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8d6c6158-bdac-40e5-a3d8-bfbe0a089610_1524x224.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>Also its Operating income:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!0rxr!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa048db51-52b4-4438-984f-8eae8839c258_1543x220.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!0rxr!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa048db51-52b4-4438-984f-8eae8839c258_1543x220.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!0rxr!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa048db51-52b4-4438-984f-8eae8839c258_1543x220.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!0rxr!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa048db51-52b4-4438-984f-8eae8839c258_1543x220.png 1272w, 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https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!0rxr!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa048db51-52b4-4438-984f-8eae8839c258_1543x220.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!0rxr!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa048db51-52b4-4438-984f-8eae8839c258_1543x220.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!0rxr!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa048db51-52b4-4438-984f-8eae8839c258_1543x220.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>Earnings quickly took a dive and is accelerating down due to an explosion in costs. Operating income 153k in FY 2024, while net income was -9M- mainly due to impairment charges related to the gurushot acquisition(Ebitda was 2.6M in FY 2024). An unprofitable software company(accounting for writedowns) with negative sentiment is a recipe for low valuations, which is reflected in the stock price.</p><h3><strong>What went wrong ?</strong></h3><p>The sudden dip in earnings caused by one primary factor: The gurushots acquisition. <a href="https://finance.yahoo.com/news/zedge-announces-transformational-acquisition-gurushots-104500863.html">In April 2022</a>, ZDGE announced that it was acquisiring a company called gurushots. Now gurushots, which you can see for yourself <a href="https://gurushots.com/">here</a>, is a photography game. It is a pretty good concept- where users compete on who takes the best photos and you &#8216;move up the ranks&#8217; with different badges. While this is a great concept for aspiring photographers, gurushots is <strong>not</strong> a moneymaker. The thing about acquisitions is you get a new revenue stream &#8230; but in the expense of new costs (salaries of new employees, integration costs, etc.). In ZDGE&#8217;s most recent quarter, ZDGE earned 7 million in revenues, of which just 644k was attributed to gurushots. That is basically peanuts as far as materiality goes. In the yearly scale, we see the following proportions:<br></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ia3n!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa9f08a06-8223-4d9a-898b-3e5cdba272b1_539x250.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ia3n!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa9f08a06-8223-4d9a-898b-3e5cdba272b1_539x250.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ia3n!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa9f08a06-8223-4d9a-898b-3e5cdba272b1_539x250.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ia3n!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa9f08a06-8223-4d9a-898b-3e5cdba272b1_539x250.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ia3n!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa9f08a06-8223-4d9a-898b-3e5cdba272b1_539x250.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ia3n!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa9f08a06-8223-4d9a-898b-3e5cdba272b1_539x250.png" width="539" height="250" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/a9f08a06-8223-4d9a-898b-3e5cdba272b1_539x250.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:250,&quot;width&quot;:539,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ia3n!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa9f08a06-8223-4d9a-898b-3e5cdba272b1_539x250.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ia3n!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa9f08a06-8223-4d9a-898b-3e5cdba272b1_539x250.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ia3n!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa9f08a06-8223-4d9a-898b-3e5cdba272b1_539x250.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ia3n!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa9f08a06-8223-4d9a-898b-3e5cdba272b1_539x250.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>Dark blue being normal Zedge core business, and light blue being Gurushots.</p><p></p><p>But we suppose it is not all that bad because gurushots is contributing <strong>something</strong> to revenues. However, the catch is it is contributing <strong>a lot</strong> to the costs:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!-I3V!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F39d18c0f-14ed-4f04-8941-f1ebcd77a671_1519x300.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!-I3V!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F39d18c0f-14ed-4f04-8941-f1ebcd77a671_1519x300.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!-I3V!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F39d18c0f-14ed-4f04-8941-f1ebcd77a671_1519x300.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!-I3V!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F39d18c0f-14ed-4f04-8941-f1ebcd77a671_1519x300.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!-I3V!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F39d18c0f-14ed-4f04-8941-f1ebcd77a671_1519x300.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!-I3V!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F39d18c0f-14ed-4f04-8941-f1ebcd77a671_1519x300.png" width="1456" height="288" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/39d18c0f-14ed-4f04-8941-f1ebcd77a671_1519x300.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:288,&quot;width&quot;:1456,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!-I3V!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F39d18c0f-14ed-4f04-8941-f1ebcd77a671_1519x300.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!-I3V!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F39d18c0f-14ed-4f04-8941-f1ebcd77a671_1519x300.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!-I3V!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F39d18c0f-14ed-4f04-8941-f1ebcd77a671_1519x300.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!-I3V!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F39d18c0f-14ed-4f04-8941-f1ebcd77a671_1519x300.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>These are figures from ZDGE&#8217;s <a href="https://www.bamsec.com/filing/121390024109313/1?cik=1667313&amp;hl=44776:44781&amp;hl_id=vkjzn46hbe">most recent quarter</a>. Earnings this quarter was -457k. However, if we pretended Gurushots did <strong>not</strong> exist, ZDGE&#8217;s income from operations would have been +934k! About 1.3 million more! And this is <strong>not</strong> counting the exorbitant impairment charges ZDGE has been taking! However, management in FY 2024 10-K revealed that the write-downs related to gurushots are basically over:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!8DSL!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F82020003-9625-4466-b9e6-aa73d317ed27_1025x172.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!8DSL!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F82020003-9625-4466-b9e6-aa73d317ed27_1025x172.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!8DSL!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F82020003-9625-4466-b9e6-aa73d317ed27_1025x172.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!8DSL!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F82020003-9625-4466-b9e6-aa73d317ed27_1025x172.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!8DSL!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F82020003-9625-4466-b9e6-aa73d317ed27_1025x172.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!8DSL!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F82020003-9625-4466-b9e6-aa73d317ed27_1025x172.png" width="1025" height="172" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/82020003-9625-4466-b9e6-aa73d317ed27_1025x172.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:172,&quot;width&quot;:1025,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!8DSL!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F82020003-9625-4466-b9e6-aa73d317ed27_1025x172.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!8DSL!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F82020003-9625-4466-b9e6-aa73d317ed27_1025x172.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!8DSL!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F82020003-9625-4466-b9e6-aa73d317ed27_1025x172.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!8DSL!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F82020003-9625-4466-b9e6-aa73d317ed27_1025x172.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>Recall how we saw a sudden dips in operating income starting 2023 ? 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y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p><strong>Blue: Present Income from Operations of ZDGE<br>Red: Income from operations without gurufocus</strong></p><p>Because of the acquisition, we have seen earnings tank into the negative territory, with management, in FY 2024, taking a 11 million dollar impairment charge relating to gurufocus(which will not happen going forward), not to mention Operating income dipping from about 9 million in 2022 to 153k in 2024 due to the huge SG&amp;A costs related to Gurushots.</p><p>But the funny thing is, the PE ratio(here, definition being market cap/net income) had the gurushots acquisition not have happened, would have still been a meagre 6.71(as of FY 2024, if we discount loss from operations from gurufocus, along with its related impairment charge), or more recently 10.17(as of latest quarter, annualised) &#8230; <strong>a criminal undervaluation for a software company</strong>&#8230; not to mention ZDGE has 20 million dollars worth of cash against a 38 million dollar market cap, with just about 200k in debt, bringing Price-to-cash to more than 50% &#8230; <strong>Talk about a &#8216;safe&#8217; investment!</strong></p><p>So &#8230; we have a core business which is pretty resilient so far, which is being weighed down by a bad acquisition.&#8230; But we believe management can nullify every single thing that is keeping the stock down pretty easily.</p><h3><strong>The value creation opportunity</strong></h3><p>Based on the facts stated above, it is clear that the main problem with ZDGE is Gurushots. Now, the two things ZDGE could do is either divest Gurushots, or turn it around and bring back earnings and revenue growth. Below, we dig deeper into each of the value-generating moves we believe ZDGE should make. To be clear, we think ZDGE should/would pick the latter option.</p><h3><strong>Divest/Sell Gurushots. Impact: Highly positive. Likelihood: Almost 0</strong></h3><p><strong>Just to be clear, our long-term plan for ZDGE would be to turnaround Gurushots to turn it into a money-generating machine. We want to highlighted divestiture as an option to show how even the worst-case scenario of the gurushots turnaround </strong><em><strong>not</strong></em><strong> working can be a great thing for the share price via a divestiture. This is a great margin of stock since even the worst-case scenario of gurushots would yield a share price appreciation for ZDGE.<br><br></strong></p><p>Say ZDGE&#8217;s turnaround doesn&#8217;t go as hoped and management wants to get rid of Gurushots. What happens then ?As high highlighted earlier, ZDGE&#8217;s PE ratio without gurufocus is at an outrageous 6x(FY 2024- stripping out gurushocus related impairment and amortization charges and SG&amp;A) or 10x(As of latest quarter annualised). Now that management has already pointed out that there won&#8217;t be such large write-downs going forward because about 100% of the assets related to gurushots have been <a href="https://www.bamsec.com/transcripts/611887ee-83fb-4b3c-a035-7ec292590cee?hl_id=vyh2ltuv-x">written off</a>, Gurushots is basically a sitting duck:<br></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!f8zk!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff11a2e72-be19-442b-b5b6-65c69e671390_1013x169.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!f8zk!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff11a2e72-be19-442b-b5b6-65c69e671390_1013x169.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!f8zk!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff11a2e72-be19-442b-b5b6-65c69e671390_1013x169.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!f8zk!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff11a2e72-be19-442b-b5b6-65c69e671390_1013x169.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!f8zk!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff11a2e72-be19-442b-b5b6-65c69e671390_1013x169.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!f8zk!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff11a2e72-be19-442b-b5b6-65c69e671390_1013x169.png" width="1013" height="169" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/f11a2e72-be19-442b-b5b6-65c69e671390_1013x169.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:169,&quot;width&quot;:1013,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!f8zk!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff11a2e72-be19-442b-b5b6-65c69e671390_1013x169.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!f8zk!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff11a2e72-be19-442b-b5b6-65c69e671390_1013x169.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!f8zk!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff11a2e72-be19-442b-b5b6-65c69e671390_1013x169.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!f8zk!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff11a2e72-be19-442b-b5b6-65c69e671390_1013x169.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>The only thing Gurushots is contributing to ZDGE, it its sky-high operating expenses such as Gurushots&#8217; employees salaries, etc. The market hasn&#8217;t been valuing ZDGE properly because it views ZDGE has a decelerating software company which made a blunder of an acquisition with miniscule operating income, while failing to see the resilient core business. If we strip ZDGE off of Gurufocus via a sale or divestiture and get rid of its operating costs(like SG&amp;A, salaries&#8230; etc), we believe the market will re-rate Gurufocus from a 6x to <strong>atleast</strong> a conservative 15x PE ratio, representing a<strong> 50-250%</strong> gain from current price levels, mainly due to the realisation that operating income would jump from 0.15million to about 5 million <strong>immediately</strong>, assuming FY 2024 numbers. Refer to the following chart <strong>again</strong>:<br></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!CeNa!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6c5efd4a-fac1-457c-85bc-3900aa620f8a_531x324.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!CeNa!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6c5efd4a-fac1-457c-85bc-3900aa620f8a_531x324.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!CeNa!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6c5efd4a-fac1-457c-85bc-3900aa620f8a_531x324.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!CeNa!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6c5efd4a-fac1-457c-85bc-3900aa620f8a_531x324.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!CeNa!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6c5efd4a-fac1-457c-85bc-3900aa620f8a_531x324.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!CeNa!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6c5efd4a-fac1-457c-85bc-3900aa620f8a_531x324.png" width="531" height="324" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/6c5efd4a-fac1-457c-85bc-3900aa620f8a_531x324.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:324,&quot;width&quot;:531,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!CeNa!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6c5efd4a-fac1-457c-85bc-3900aa620f8a_531x324.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!CeNa!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6c5efd4a-fac1-457c-85bc-3900aa620f8a_531x324.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!CeNa!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6c5efd4a-fac1-457c-85bc-3900aa620f8a_531x324.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!CeNa!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6c5efd4a-fac1-457c-85bc-3900aa620f8a_531x324.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p></p><p>This is a conservative estimate, considering that a company which has a <strong>growth runway</strong> (more on this in the next point) ,<strong>and</strong> flipping into positive earnings is a narrative the market has historically loved. In fact, ZDGE&#8217;s EV/EBITDA ratio stands at an attractive 12x, even though EBITDA is set to grow when/if Gurushot&#8217;s SG&amp;A base vanishes after the sale/divestiture. The valuation is not the only aspect of this decision. Divesting Gurushots will allow management to focus more on the core business, helping them bring growth back to Zedge&#8217;s core business using AI, which I address further below in the writeup later.<br><br>However, management is hellbent on <strong>not</strong> shutting down gurushots, and instead turning it around. Look at CEO&#8217;s remarks as of most recent earning call:<br></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!EJ70!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4c71eff6-3681-47da-ad60-1284a4b6dee6_1024x440.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!EJ70!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4c71eff6-3681-47da-ad60-1284a4b6dee6_1024x440.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!EJ70!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4c71eff6-3681-47da-ad60-1284a4b6dee6_1024x440.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!EJ70!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4c71eff6-3681-47da-ad60-1284a4b6dee6_1024x440.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!EJ70!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4c71eff6-3681-47da-ad60-1284a4b6dee6_1024x440.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!EJ70!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4c71eff6-3681-47da-ad60-1284a4b6dee6_1024x440.png" width="1024" height="440" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/4c71eff6-3681-47da-ad60-1284a4b6dee6_1024x440.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:440,&quot;width&quot;:1024,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!EJ70!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4c71eff6-3681-47da-ad60-1284a4b6dee6_1024x440.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!EJ70!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4c71eff6-3681-47da-ad60-1284a4b6dee6_1024x440.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!EJ70!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4c71eff6-3681-47da-ad60-1284a4b6dee6_1024x440.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!EJ70!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4c71eff6-3681-47da-ad60-1284a4b6dee6_1024x440.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>This is not to say that management might not consider a divestiture in the future, but I don&#8217;t believe we can expect it in the short-term. However, with all the Gurushots related write-downs over, it is fair to give management a shot at turning this dud around, especially considering that they said they have taken steps in the past 6 months or so. The good part is, if management fails to turnaround gurushots, they still have a very undervalued core business, and they can divest Gurushots as a last resort and it would still result in a share price appreciation. <strong>More about the Gurushots restructuring below</strong></p><h3><strong>Gurushots&#8217; Turnaround plan: Management has already announced plans to restructure gurushots and cut costs via reduction of employee headcounts, and also look for ways to overhaul Gurushots to become a growth machine.</strong></h3><p>With all the write-downs and impairment charges relating to the Gurushots over, Gurushots basically acts as a &#8216;free call option&#8217; within the company since its asset value is virtually 0. This is amazing because Gurushots is this entity that is worth nothing, but contributes a LOT to ZDGE&#8217;s costs. Even if ZDGE cuts SOME of gurushots&#8217; costs, it will help ZDGE a disproportionately amount&#8230; and in the case of a total turnaround of gurushots, we can see ZDGE becoming more than a 5-bagger. The best part is even if the turnaround fails, divestiture, as mentioned above, will unlock shareholder value.</p><p><a href="https://stockhouse.com/news/press-releases/2025/01/21/zedge-announces-gurushots-restructuring-to-improve-profitability-and-position">On the 21st of January 2025</a>, management announced a restructuring plan to reduce ZDGE&#8217;s headcount by 14%, mainly by letting go of Gurushots employees. This is the stripping of costs we were talking about:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!necy!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fdea35246-544b-4e94-b6b7-af66636dbebf_700x347.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!necy!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fdea35246-544b-4e94-b6b7-af66636dbebf_700x347.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!necy!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fdea35246-544b-4e94-b6b7-af66636dbebf_700x347.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!necy!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fdea35246-544b-4e94-b6b7-af66636dbebf_700x347.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!necy!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fdea35246-544b-4e94-b6b7-af66636dbebf_700x347.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!necy!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fdea35246-544b-4e94-b6b7-af66636dbebf_700x347.png" width="700" height="347" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/dea35246-544b-4e94-b6b7-af66636dbebf_700x347.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:347,&quot;width&quot;:700,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!necy!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fdea35246-544b-4e94-b6b7-af66636dbebf_700x347.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!necy!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fdea35246-544b-4e94-b6b7-af66636dbebf_700x347.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!necy!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fdea35246-544b-4e94-b6b7-af66636dbebf_700x347.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!necy!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fdea35246-544b-4e94-b6b7-af66636dbebf_700x347.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>Gurushots&#8217; acquisition has contributed so much to ZDGE&#8217;s SG&amp;A expenses, and it is one of the primary reasons ZDGE&#8217;s operating expenses is miniscule. After layoffs and a sort of &#8216;leanification&#8217; of Gurushots, management is improving the <strong>bottom line of </strong>income statement of ZDGE, while preserving the option to exponentially improve both the topline <strong>and</strong> the bottom line</p><p>Next, the restructuring plan involves other cost-savings which will save 1.7 million in pre-tax(this incoludes the layoffs), which implies about 15% of FY 2024&#8217;s pre-tax losses(Pre-tax income was -11.37). This makes our analogy of a free call option even better- management seems to be focused on lessening the drag impact Gurushots seems to be having on ZDGE, while preserving all possibility of a turnaround and turning Gurushots into a growth machine!</p><p>Other than a divestiture, this will be the highest value-generator for ZDGE in our opinion. Gurushots cannot make money for the life of itself at the moment- but if that changes, we can see a world&#8217;s worth of multiple expansion. So- management knows how to cut costs by firing people and lowering user acquisition costs, but what about actually inducing growth to Gurushots ?</p><p>Yes, management does say that they are still figuring out the roadmap to turn-around, but Ragnarok Research has done due diligence on this topic and webelieve that Gurushots is one of those ideas that are great for the photographic community, but just hasn&#8217;t found the right way to monetise yet. When ZDGE did try to monetise it, players started complaining of it becoming a pay-to-win. Now, management wants to fix it and are confidence about their options. This attitude can be seen in management&#8217;s reluctance to divest or shut down Gurushots- because it is a strong brand in amateur photography!</p><p>Best part is, management plans to attack this monetisation problem directly:<br></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Dpx9!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa147aa6d-4dee-42e2-aa22-87e7f899cc12_692x322.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Dpx9!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa147aa6d-4dee-42e2-aa22-87e7f899cc12_692x322.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Dpx9!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa147aa6d-4dee-42e2-aa22-87e7f899cc12_692x322.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Dpx9!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa147aa6d-4dee-42e2-aa22-87e7f899cc12_692x322.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Dpx9!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa147aa6d-4dee-42e2-aa22-87e7f899cc12_692x322.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Dpx9!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa147aa6d-4dee-42e2-aa22-87e7f899cc12_692x322.png" width="692" height="322" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/a147aa6d-4dee-42e2-aa22-87e7f899cc12_692x322.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:322,&quot;width&quot;:692,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Dpx9!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa147aa6d-4dee-42e2-aa22-87e7f899cc12_692x322.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Dpx9!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa147aa6d-4dee-42e2-aa22-87e7f899cc12_692x322.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Dpx9!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa147aa6d-4dee-42e2-aa22-87e7f899cc12_692x322.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Dpx9!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa147aa6d-4dee-42e2-aa22-87e7f899cc12_692x322.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p></p><p>As stated, Zedge wants to overhaul gurushots and rethink its entire monetisation policy and make a new player experience. This is a step in the right direction, and it is almost undeniable proof of how shareholder-friendly management is. Our main conviction in Gurushots&#8217; turnaround is that the problem is clear: the <strong>concept</strong> of a competition for amateur <strong>until</strong> Gurushots became a pay-to-win. This is not a very hard problem to fix because the concept is great and photographers even agree. Look at some trustpilot reviews:</p><p>In Part II, we will touch up on how management can actually <strong>turnaround</strong> Gurushots.</p><p>To be clear, we have full confidence in what management will come up with- and this is just our 2-cents. Even if management does not take the steps we list out, we will remain long because management&#8217;s docs is at a turnaround of gurushots and cutting costs- which is all we ask for.</p><h3><strong>Other Value-Generation views management is pursuing right now:</strong></h3><p>ZDGE has a fairly competent management team, which is doing everything it can to help out shareholders by taking measures to unlock shareholder value in other avenues as well. Here are some of them which makes us confident that ZDGE is a good long-term investment, assuming ZDGE handles Gurushots in either of the two ways highlighted above.<br><br></p><p><strong>Accelerate growth of ZDGE&#8217;s core business. Impact: Positive. Likelihood: Almost 100%<br></strong>We see great growth opportunities ahead of ZDGE, especially after the most recent earnings call. We all know how Generative AI is taking the world by storm- from Sora, to ChatGPT, etc. ZDGE wants to capitalise on this opportunity. Instead of offering plain wallpapers and sounds to users, ZDGE is transitioning into a paid model where users themselves can create and customise their own sounds and pictures. This sets ZDGE on a path to capitalize on growing AI trends where users are virtually paying for an AI-agent that streamlines the process between giving a prompt, and embedding the end result to your phone via wallpaper, ringtone, or notification sounds:<br></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!u983!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8643d32d-cdba-495e-844b-70dd89da16c0_1006x197.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!u983!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8643d32d-cdba-495e-844b-70dd89da16c0_1006x197.png 424w, 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https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!KAST!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3d623778-4ec1-467f-8522-81540662f138_1045x133.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!KAST!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3d623778-4ec1-467f-8522-81540662f138_1045x133.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!KAST!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3d623778-4ec1-467f-8522-81540662f138_1045x133.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><p></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" 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https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!PAxz!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F36dd367d-56ce-4f4f-a479-7ca33a4af80b_1018x159.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!PAxz!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F36dd367d-56ce-4f4f-a479-7ca33a4af80b_1018x159.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!PAxz!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F36dd367d-56ce-4f4f-a479-7ca33a4af80b_1018x159.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>A valid concern an investor may have is &#8216;wait, why can&#8217;t I use something like Sora myself, and use that as my wallpaper?&#8217;. Well wallpapers aren&#8217;t the only offering of ZDGE. It specialises as phone-customisation specific products, like AI-made <strong>ringtones(</strong>Will roll out soon as per management<strong>), </strong>custom app icons &#8230; things that are hard to integrate from an image to the UI of a phone. ZDGE merely streamlines that process. <br>The most recent quarter actually suffered a decline in advertising revenue due to a one-off, which has been rectified:<br></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!xuPz!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Feea08e34-41f3-4648-896a-bbb681e8e622_1041x292.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!xuPz!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Feea08e34-41f3-4648-896a-bbb681e8e622_1041x292.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!xuPz!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Feea08e34-41f3-4648-896a-bbb681e8e622_1041x292.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!xuPz!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Feea08e34-41f3-4648-896a-bbb681e8e622_1041x292.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!xuPz!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Feea08e34-41f3-4648-896a-bbb681e8e622_1041x292.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!xuPz!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Feea08e34-41f3-4648-896a-bbb681e8e622_1041x292.png" width="1041" height="292" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/eea08e34-41f3-4648-896a-bbb681e8e622_1041x292.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:292,&quot;width&quot;:1041,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!xuPz!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Feea08e34-41f3-4648-896a-bbb681e8e622_1041x292.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!xuPz!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Feea08e34-41f3-4648-896a-bbb681e8e622_1041x292.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!xuPz!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Feea08e34-41f3-4648-896a-bbb681e8e622_1041x292.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!xuPz!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Feea08e34-41f3-4648-896a-bbb681e8e622_1041x292.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p></p><p>So, our latest quarter annualised PE ratio of about 10x is actually <strong>inflated</strong> due to a one-off advertising bug and some &#8216;integration complexities&#8217; from adtech partners which is supposed to normalise going forward. Goes to show how undervalued the company is. This decision by management, according to us, will further bolster ZDGE&#8217;s core business. Returning growth back to ZDGE&#8217;s business can be better done if management is <strong>solely</strong> focused on the core business, instead of dividing attention between the core, and gurushots. So, we believe this action goes hand-in-hand with the divestiture/sale of gurushots.</p><p><strong>The value generation classic that management is already implementing: Share buybacks. Impact: Positive. Likelihood: Almost 100%</strong></p><p>A classic maneuver in the value generation playbook is ramping up buybacks- and the best part is, this is exactly what ZDGE is doing. ZDGE recently just approved a 5 million dollar share buyback <a href="https://www.bamsec.com/transcripts/f0c3720d-cd0d-4348-bf1a-d18d08136f35?hl_id=4yq5ighpwe">program</a>:<br></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!aQhc!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fdc44bca0-ced8-460b-9e07-6a118e252e42_1029x93.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!aQhc!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fdc44bca0-ced8-460b-9e07-6a118e252e42_1029x93.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!aQhc!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fdc44bca0-ced8-460b-9e07-6a118e252e42_1029x93.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!aQhc!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fdc44bca0-ced8-460b-9e07-6a118e252e42_1029x93.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!aQhc!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fdc44bca0-ced8-460b-9e07-6a118e252e42_1029x93.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!aQhc!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fdc44bca0-ced8-460b-9e07-6a118e252e42_1029x93.png" width="1029" height="93" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/dc44bca0-ced8-460b-9e07-6a118e252e42_1029x93.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:93,&quot;width&quot;:1029,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!aQhc!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fdc44bca0-ced8-460b-9e07-6a118e252e42_1029x93.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!aQhc!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fdc44bca0-ced8-460b-9e07-6a118e252e42_1029x93.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!aQhc!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fdc44bca0-ced8-460b-9e07-6a118e252e42_1029x93.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!aQhc!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fdc44bca0-ced8-460b-9e07-6a118e252e42_1029x93.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>This is extremely bullish in our opinion, considering ZDGE just completed a 3 million dollar share buyback last july. This just goes to show how confident management is in their strategy. Even if we disregard that, a 5 million dollar share buyback would retire, roughly 13% of the shares at current prices, making the company even more undervalued and even more primed for share appreciation when funds start valuing it as a <strong>profitable</strong>, and <strong>growing</strong> company, assuming the two steps above are also successfully taken.</p><h3><strong>Risks</strong></h3><p>One of the main risks to the thesis is Gurushots not turning around as we hoped- but that is also a pillar of the investment thesis. Even if it does nt work out, a divestiture will be extremely value-generative due to the market likely performing a multiple-rerating to price in the resilient core business of Zedge.</p><p><strong>Conclusion<br></strong>We have not seen a company like ZDGE in a long time. This is a software company valued 12x Ev-Ebitda, but with an extremely depressed Ebitda which management is working hard to fix. Soon, market will catch up like it always does and we believe that this has multibagger potential. Sure, the actual turning around of Gurushots might be hard, but even if it all doesn&#8217;t work out, it ends well for ZDGE. In our view, this makes ZDGE a strong, screaming buy.</p><p>In <strong>Part II</strong>, we will release a set of guides we think management should/will take to transform solely gurushots. This writeup was to highlight the attractive opportunity in the total entity, which is Zedge Inc,. Nothing more. The part II will be way more comprehensive. An activist bet can&#8217;t be made on ZDGE because a majority stockholder controls virtually 70% of the voting rights, so activism isn&#8217;t really an option- however sending out Part II into the ethos in hopes that management reads it and gets some inspiration is our goal- other than a fun little exercise to challenge ourselves.</p><p></p><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://researchragnarok.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">Thanks for reading Ragnarok Research! Subscribe for free to receive new posts and support my work.</p></div><form class="subscription-widget-subscribe"><input type="email" class="email-input" name="email" placeholder="Type your email&#8230;" tabindex="-1"><input type="submit" class="button primary" value="Subscribe"><div class="fake-input-wrapper"><div class="fake-input"></div><div class="fake-button"></div></div></form></div></div><p></p>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[LONG TMDX: A Growth Company Down 40% Due to Temporary Problems Misinterpreted as Permanent Growth Deceleration]]></title><description><![CDATA[Delayed datapoints]]></description><link>https://researchragnarok.com/p/long-tmdx-a-growth-company-down-40</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://researchragnarok.com/p/long-tmdx-a-growth-company-down-40</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Ragnarok Research]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sun, 22 Dec 2024 10:41:59 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/7d5a74fa-ea02-494e-a431-3a1b50abb917_2708x1072.png" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h3></h3><p>TransMedics Corp is a medical technology company specializing in systems to preserve, monitor, and transport donor organs such as hearts, lungs, and livers. Its Organ Care System (OCS) enables longer preservation of organs outside the body, significantly improving transplant success rates. Over the past five years, TMDX&#8217;s stock has surged 300%, fueled by accelerating adoption of its OCS program. Quarterly revenues have risen from $42 million to $109 million in just seven quarters.</p><p>However, Q3 2024 marked TMDX's first negative quarterly revenue growth since 2022. Management attributed this to temporary factors, including maintenance on its organ transport fleet, which reduced the number of flights undertaken and caused revenue declines. The maintenance also increased costs as TMDX relied on third-party planes for some trips, further compressing gross margins. Importantly, management indicated in the earnings call that these challenges should normalize going forward, setting the stage for material gross margin expansion in subsequent quarters. Despite this, the stock has dropped ~50% from its all-time highs (ATH), and as of 28th November 2024, almost 30% of the float has been shorted. This presentsa compelling buying opportunity to the contrarian, and intelligen investor.</p><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://researchragnarok.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">Thanks for reading Ragnarok Research! Subscribe for free to receive new posts and support my work.</p></div><form class="subscription-widget-subscribe"><input type="email" class="email-input" name="email" placeholder="Type your email&#8230;" tabindex="-1"><input type="submit" class="button primary" value="Subscribe"><div class="fake-input-wrapper"><div class="fake-input"></div><div class="fake-button"></div></div></form></div></div><p>We are long TMDX for the following reasons:</p><h3>Investment Thesis:</h3><h4><strong>1. Strong Operational Recovery Points to Record Q4 Performance</strong></h4><p>In Q3 2024, TMDX reported a fleet of 18 planes for organ transport. Using FAA data and jetspy.com, we tracked monthly flight activity and found the fleet's operations have significantly rebounded in Q4:</p><ul><li><p>2024 Flights by Quarter</p><ul><li><p>Q1 (14 planes): 661 flights</p></li><li><p>Q2 (17 planes): 1,474 flights</p></li><li><p>Q3 (18 planes): 1,376 flights</p></li><li><p>Q4 (as of Nov 28, 18 planes): 1,012 flights</p></li></ul></li></ul><p>The reduced number of flights in Q3 stemmed from fleet maintenance, which limited operational capacity and necessitated the use of costly third-party planes. These factors weighed on gross margins and overall profitability. However, with the fleet performing better, TMDX performed 17.4 flights per day in Q4 (as of Nov 28), projecting 1,570 flights for the quarter&#8212;a record high. Historically, December sees elevated transplant activity due to alcohol-related accidents, suggesting an even stronger Q4 finish.</p><p>Despite low transplant volumes nationally, TMDX&#8217;s rising flight numbers signal growing market share and adoption of its OCS technology. The normalization of fleet operations should also lead to lower costs and margin recovery in Q4 and beyond, making us confident in robust earnings growth and outperformance in upcoming reports.</p><h4><strong>2. Resilience Amid Temporary National Headwinds, Setting the Stage for Explosive Growth</strong></h4><p>National transplant volumes have declined in Q3 and early Q4 2024 due to cyclical factors. Data from the Organ Procurement and Transplantation Network (OPTN) illustrates this trend:</p><ul><li><p>2024 Transplants per Day</p><ul><li><p>Q1: 31.64</p></li><li><p>Q2: 32.98</p></li><li><p>Q3: 31.4</p></li><li><p>Q4 (as of Nov 28): 30.07</p></li></ul></li></ul><p>Such declines are typical during this time of year. Transplant volumes historically peak in December and Q1, driven by seasonal factors like increased alcohol-related accidents. These cyclical lows have weighed on TMDX&#8217;s Q3 performance and investor sentiment. However, this temporary dip in transplant activity obscures a critical trend: TMDX has significantly expanded its market share and captured more customers, even during a period of reduced demand.</p><h5><strong>Market Share Gains Amidst Headwinds</strong></h5><p>TMDX&#8217;s operational resilience and aggressive market expansion are evident in its growing flight numbers. While overall transplant activity in the U.S. has hit yearly lows, TMDX&#8217;s fleet activity is on track to achieve record highs in Q4 2024. This signals that hospitals are increasingly adopting TMDX&#8217;s Organ Care System (OCS) and shifting transplant orders to the company.</p><p>This means that TMDX has signed up new customers during this period, leveraging its technological edge and superior outcomes. These new customers, combined with existing ones, are likely to significantly increase transplant volumes as overall demand normalizes. This sets the stage for a substantial boost to TMDX's revenue in 2025 when seasonal factors drive transplant volumes higher.</p><h5><strong>Revenue Explosion in 2025 and Beyond</strong></h5><ol><li><p>More Transplant Orders Despite Lower Volumes: TMDX has demonstrated its ability to grow transplant orders even in a low-demand environment, thanks to its aggressive market share expansion. This growth is particularly significant because new and existing customers will perform more transplants in 2025 when national transplant volumes rebound due to seasonal factors. As transplant volumes rise, these orders will translate directly into a significant surge in earnings.</p></li><li><p>Seasonal Tailwinds: December and Q1 have historically been the busiest periods for organ transplants. With TMDX&#8217;s fleet operating at peak capacity and an expanded customer base, the company is uniquely positioned to capitalize on this surge in demand.</p></li><li><p>Widening Adoption Curve: Hospitals that adopt the OCS system during periods of operational stress are unlikely to revert to traditional methods, ensuring sustained growth in transplant orders as demand normalizes.</p></li></ol><h5><strong>Mispricing of Growth Potential</strong></h5><p>Investors have failed to appreciate the strategic importance of TMDX&#8217;s market share gains. The company is being punished for temporary cyclical factors, even as it lays the groundwork for outsized growth. The increase in transplant orders during a historically low-demand period suggests that TMDX is becoming a critical player in the organ transplant ecosystem.</p><p>As transplant volumes return to normalized levels, TMDX&#8217;s outsized market share will magnify revenue growth. This misalignment between the company&#8217;s operational performance and market sentiment creates a unique opportunity for investors to capitalize on a temporary inefficiency.</p><p>As a side note, the unravelling of the short interest, which we think may induce some buying pressure from short-covering, can be a reason for future short term price appreciation as well. This, coupled with the end of tax-loss selling in 2025, serves as some great &#8216;technical&#8217; catalysts.</p><h5><strong>Valuation</strong></h5><p>TMDX is currently valued at <strong>7.2x trailing twelve-month sales</strong>, which reflects the market's acknowledgment of its high growth potential and dominant position in the organ transplant ecosystem. While this multiple is higher than traditional medtech averages (typically in the 3&#8211;5x range), several factors make it attractive:</p><ul><li><p><strong>High Growth Rate Justifies Premium</strong>:<br>TMDX has grown its quarterly revenue from <strong>$42 million to $109 million in seven quarters</strong>, an annualized growth rate far outpacing traditional medtech firms. This growth trajectory supports a higher sales multiple, especially given its market dominance in the OCS space. TMDX has a huge growth runway even if we exclude all the analysis done in this writeup. Apart from the Liver segment(accounting for about 70% of revenyes), TMDX is on track to launch its OCS Lung clinical program to drive adoption, and is investing further capital to expand market share on the heart and lung segment as well!</p></li></ul><ul><li><p><strong>Market Leadership with Minimal Competition</strong>:<br>TMDX operates in a niche market with limited competition, providing it with a significant moat due to it being the only FDA-approved solution. The Organ Care System (OCS) is a revolutionary technology that hospitals are increasingly adopting, as evidenced by rising flight activity even in a low-demand environment. This unique position reduces the risk of immediate margin compression or disruption, making the premium valuation more defensible. Since TMDX&#8217;s solution is the only FDA-approved product, TMDX can easily expand its solutions to multiple transplant-able organs and gain market share. According to investor presentations, this is its primary goal- to expand utilisation and adoption via its clinical trials for the lung and heart segment. In the Q3 2024 Earnings call, the CEO of TMDX said &#8216;our clinical programs that are designed for next year is to expand our reach even further in lung and heart and tackle areas that we have not tackled yet&#8217;.</p></li></ul><ul><li><p><strong>Explosive Revenue Potential Ahead</strong>:<br>The current multiple does not fully account for the substantial revenue growth expected in 2025. With TMDX signing up new customers, increasing transplant orders, and benefiting from seasonal tailwinds, its revenues are poised for an outsized surge when transplant volumes normalize. This forward-looking growth could compress the sales multiple significantly in the coming quarters, offering upside for investors.</p></li></ul><ul><li><p><strong>Gross Margin Expansion and Operating Leverage</strong>:<br>The normalization of fleet maintenance costs, reduced reliance on third-party planes, and rising volumes will drive significant gross margin expansion. As operating leverage kicks in, profitability will scale faster than revenue, further justifying a higher multiple.</p></li></ul><h4><strong>Peer comparison</strong></h4><p>While TMDX&#8217;s 7.2x sales valuation is higher than the medtech industry average, it remains reasonable compared to high-growth, innovative peers in adjacent healthcare technology spaces. Many growth-focused medtech or biotech firms with disruptive technologies trade at 10&#8211;15x sales, particularly when they are at an inflection point for profitability. For instance:</p><blockquote><p><strong>Intuitive Surgical (ISRG)</strong>, a <strong>mature </strong>leader in robotic-assisted surgery, which is almost at the end of its growth curve, trades at a lofty 24.5x sales</p><p><strong>Xvivo Perfusion(STO: XVIVO)</strong>, A peer of TMDX operating in the organ preservation industry, trades at about 19x sales.</p></blockquote><p>Given TMDX&#8217;s unique position, early-stage growth curve, and limited competition, its 7.2x multiple appears relatively conservative, especially as revenues are set to accelerate.</p><h3><strong>Risks:</strong></h3><ul><li><p>Fleet Maintenance: Persistent fleet issues could increase costs.</p></li><li><p>Prolonged Transplant Volume Decline: A delayed recovery in transplant activity would hinder growth.</p></li><li><p>Competition: Although minimal now, new entrants could erode market share.</p></li></ul><h3><strong>Catalysts:</strong></h3><ul><li><p>Earnings Confirmation: Future reports should validate that growth remains intact.</p></li><li><p>Normalization of Transplant Volumes: Seasonal recovery in 2025 will amplify revenue.</p></li><li><p>End of Tax-Loss Selling: This temporary pressure should subside post-Q4.</p></li></ul><div><hr></div><h3>Conclusion:</h3><p>TMDX represents a compelling opportunity in the medtech space. Despite temporary setbacks, the company continues to expand its market share and demonstrate resilience during a cyclical downturn. With strong tailwinds on the horizon&#8212;normalizing transplant volumes, a robust flight recovery, and a misunderstood Q3&#8212;TMDX is well-positioned for explosive growth in 2025. At current valuations, it is a screaming buy for long-term investors.</p><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://researchragnarok.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">Thanks for reading Ragnarok Research! Subscribe for free to receive new posts and support my work.</p></div><form class="subscription-widget-subscribe"><input type="email" class="email-input" name="email" placeholder="Type your email&#8230;" tabindex="-1"><input type="submit" class="button primary" value="Subscribe"><div class="fake-input-wrapper"><div class="fake-input"></div><div class="fake-button"></div></div></form></div></div>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[COLB: Long Columbia Banking System Inc.]]></title><description><![CDATA[A rare short-term opportunity where management is probably baffled by the undervaluation of their own company&#8217;s shares.]]></description><link>https://researchragnarok.com/p/colb-long-columbia-banking-system</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://researchragnarok.com/p/colb-long-columbia-banking-system</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Ragnarok Research]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 04 Apr 2024 13:30:31 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!a2Ms!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd96d7cbb-e310-4536-a334-11a296014911_731x431.png" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Ticker: COLB<br>Stock price: 19<br>ADV: 57M<br>Market Cap: 4B<br>Position: Long</strong></p><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://researchragnarok.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">Thanks for reading Ragnarok Research! Subscribe for free to receive new posts and support my work.</p></div><form class="subscription-widget-subscribe"><input type="email" class="email-input" name="email" placeholder="Type your email&#8230;" tabindex="-1"><input type="submit" class="button primary" value="Subscribe"><div class="fake-input-wrapper"><div class="fake-input"></div><div class="fake-button"></div></div></form></div></div><p></p><p><em><strong>Executive Summary:</strong></em><br>Ragnarok Research is long Columbia Banking System, for mainly three reasons:<br><br></p><ol><li><p>COLB has been punished by the market for missing analyst&#8217;s earning expectations in Q4 2023, with the stock being hammered about 30% since Jan 2024, and 24% since its Q4 results date(Jan 24th):<br></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" 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https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Xuax!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F411dfb8e-c149-49e9-aab5-8d9cf123816f_1200x497.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Xuax!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F411dfb8e-c149-49e9-aab5-8d9cf123816f_1200x497.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Xuax!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F411dfb8e-c149-49e9-aab5-8d9cf123816f_1200x497.png" 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https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Xuax!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F411dfb8e-c149-49e9-aab5-8d9cf123816f_1200x497.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Xuax!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F411dfb8e-c149-49e9-aab5-8d9cf123816f_1200x497.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Xuax!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F411dfb8e-c149-49e9-aab5-8d9cf123816f_1200x497.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" fetchpriority="high"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div></li></ol><blockquote><p>(Green dots representing buys, with red dots representing sells. Notice the volume of buying in such a short timeframe has never seen before since 2016?)</p></blockquote><ol start="2"><li><p>The market has failed to realise that the 20% drop due to disappointing earnings is completely unwarranted, and were due to one-off problems that are likely to never repeat in, say Q1 2024. Management also believes this, as reflected in language used in earning calls and investor presentations, and obviously, insider-buying behaviour. We believe COLB is poised to surprise skeptics in the coming quarters</p></li><li><p>The recent selloff has rewarded investors to buy COLB&#8217;s stock at a valuation cheap valuation that presents itself once-in-a-lifetime. The cheap valuation provides an opportunity of asymmetric return, with the discounted price serving as a margin of safety.</p></li><li><p><em><strong>Ragnarok Research assigns a short-term(2-3 months) Price Target of about 25 US Dollars, representing a conservative 30% gain from current levels.&nbsp;</strong></em></p></li></ol><p><em><strong>Part I: the reason for the decline:<br></strong></em>COLB is a relatively simple business, as described in its 10-K:<br></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!UDYX!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Faaaf16b1-b215-44a7-9f61-6430fa2adb4c_971x281.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!UDYX!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Faaaf16b1-b215-44a7-9f61-6430fa2adb4c_971x281.png" width="971" height="281" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/aaaf16b1-b215-44a7-9f61-6430fa2adb4c_971x281.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:281,&quot;width&quot;:971,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:false,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!UDYX!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Faaaf16b1-b215-44a7-9f61-6430fa2adb4c_971x281.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!UDYX!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Faaaf16b1-b215-44a7-9f61-6430fa2adb4c_971x281.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!UDYX!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Faaaf16b1-b215-44a7-9f61-6430fa2adb4c_971x281.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!UDYX!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Faaaf16b1-b215-44a7-9f61-6430fa2adb4c_971x281.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p><a href="https://capedge.com/filing/887343/0000887343-24-000089/COLB-10K-2023FY#i6efef15136974c6e93d1638f2fc2e1ba_16">https://capedge.com/filing/887343/0000887343-24-000089/COLB-10K-2023FY#i6efef15136974c6e93d1638f2fc2e1ba_16<br><br></a></p><p>COLB is your typical bank that offers wealth management, financial planning, mortgage, and other services to corporate, institutional, small business, and individual customers.&nbsp;</p><p>It is a financial holding company that, recently, has had a lot of selling pressure due to misinformed investors blowing its recent earnings disappointment out of proportion.</p><p>On the first glance, it does seem bad:<br></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!LQc1!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F74de8bc3-b645-4afc-be36-3cd3a582bb97_310x233.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!LQc1!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F74de8bc3-b645-4afc-be36-3cd3a582bb97_310x233.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!LQc1!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F74de8bc3-b645-4afc-be36-3cd3a582bb97_310x233.png 848w, 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https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!LQc1!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F74de8bc3-b645-4afc-be36-3cd3a582bb97_310x233.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!LQc1!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F74de8bc3-b645-4afc-be36-3cd3a582bb97_310x233.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!LQc1!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F74de8bc3-b645-4afc-be36-3cd3a582bb97_310x233.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>A 44% negative surprise in Earnings is something that can scare off any investor bullish on COLB. But what was the reason for the drop in net income ?</p><p>Below is quarterly revenue since Q2 2022:<br></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!H8m0!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb1978ebd-15ce-4028-8beb-0ef679cf42c1_1171x215.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!H8m0!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb1978ebd-15ce-4028-8beb-0ef679cf42c1_1171x215.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!H8m0!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb1978ebd-15ce-4028-8beb-0ef679cf42c1_1171x215.png 848w, 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https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!H8m0!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb1978ebd-15ce-4028-8beb-0ef679cf42c1_1171x215.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!H8m0!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb1978ebd-15ce-4028-8beb-0ef679cf42c1_1171x215.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!H8m0!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb1978ebd-15ce-4028-8beb-0ef679cf42c1_1171x215.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_GpB!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F64475f4c-3c70-46c8-84cf-0b399342d300_1171x215.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_GpB!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F64475f4c-3c70-46c8-84cf-0b399342d300_1171x215.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_GpB!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F64475f4c-3c70-46c8-84cf-0b399342d300_1171x215.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_GpB!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F64475f4c-3c70-46c8-84cf-0b399342d300_1171x215.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_GpB!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F64475f4c-3c70-46c8-84cf-0b399342d300_1171x215.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_GpB!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F64475f4c-3c70-46c8-84cf-0b399342d300_1171x215.png" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/64475f4c-3c70-46c8-84cf-0b399342d300_1171x215.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:null,&quot;width&quot;:null,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_GpB!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F64475f4c-3c70-46c8-84cf-0b399342d300_1171x215.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_GpB!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F64475f4c-3c70-46c8-84cf-0b399342d300_1171x215.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_GpB!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F64475f4c-3c70-46c8-84cf-0b399342d300_1171x215.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_GpB!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F64475f4c-3c70-46c8-84cf-0b399342d300_1171x215.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>COLB&#8217;s revenue actually increased by a tiny amount from Q3 to Q4. The reason for low net income was increased non-interest expense:<br></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!HV5K!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc08c498b-6fce-4d69-a3ac-fb3c90ed6923_1162x206.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!HV5K!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc08c498b-6fce-4d69-a3ac-fb3c90ed6923_1162x206.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!HV5K!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc08c498b-6fce-4d69-a3ac-fb3c90ed6923_1162x206.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!HV5K!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc08c498b-6fce-4d69-a3ac-fb3c90ed6923_1162x206.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!HV5K!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc08c498b-6fce-4d69-a3ac-fb3c90ed6923_1162x206.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!HV5K!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc08c498b-6fce-4d69-a3ac-fb3c90ed6923_1162x206.png" width="1162" height="206" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/c08c498b-6fce-4d69-a3ac-fb3c90ed6923_1162x206.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:206,&quot;width&quot;:1162,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!HV5K!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc08c498b-6fce-4d69-a3ac-fb3c90ed6923_1162x206.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!HV5K!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc08c498b-6fce-4d69-a3ac-fb3c90ed6923_1162x206.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!HV5K!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc08c498b-6fce-4d69-a3ac-fb3c90ed6923_1162x206.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!HV5K!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc08c498b-6fce-4d69-a3ac-fb3c90ed6923_1162x206.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><p><br></p><p>Non- interest expense <strong>increased</strong> by 65 million dollars from Q3 to Q4.&nbsp;</p><p>At first look, this is a dire cause for concern, and a practical, &#8220;intelligent&#8221; investor would consider closing his/her position in the stock.&nbsp;</p><p>But, what investors faile to recognise is that the increase in expenses is temporary, and COLB is poised to make a killer comeback in the coming months.</p><p>For instance, in COLB&#8217;s Earning release document:<br>&#8203;&#8203;<a href="https://s26.q4cdn.com/577104185/files/doc_earnings/2023/q4/earnings-result/COLB-2023-Q4-Earnings-Release.pdf">https://s26.q4cdn.com/577104185/files/doc_earnings/2023/q4/earnings-result/COLB-2023-Q4-Earnings-Release.pdf<br></a></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!4BKE!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fba290dfe-630f-43b9-8a0e-a9b3b7107210_906x172.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!4BKE!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fba290dfe-630f-43b9-8a0e-a9b3b7107210_906x172.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!4BKE!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fba290dfe-630f-43b9-8a0e-a9b3b7107210_906x172.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!4BKE!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fba290dfe-630f-43b9-8a0e-a9b3b7107210_906x172.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!4BKE!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fba290dfe-630f-43b9-8a0e-a9b3b7107210_906x172.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!4BKE!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fba290dfe-630f-43b9-8a0e-a9b3b7107210_906x172.png" width="906" height="172" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/ba290dfe-630f-43b9-8a0e-a9b3b7107210_906x172.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:172,&quot;width&quot;:906,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!4BKE!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fba290dfe-630f-43b9-8a0e-a9b3b7107210_906x172.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!4BKE!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fba290dfe-630f-43b9-8a0e-a9b3b7107210_906x172.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!4BKE!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fba290dfe-630f-43b9-8a0e-a9b3b7107210_906x172.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!4BKE!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fba290dfe-630f-43b9-8a0e-a9b3b7107210_906x172.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><p><a href="https://s26.q4cdn.com/577104185/files/doc_earnings/2023/q4/earnings-result/COLB-2023-Q4-Earnings-Release.pdf"><br></a></p><p>As the CEO himself said, &#8220;one-time&#8221; expenses were the perpetrators of the increase in expenses.</p><p>First off, COLB has incurred 2 one-off expenses(see highlighted in blue):<br></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ONiu!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5448183d-55b5-41eb-b81b-e8454142e184_783x669.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ONiu!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5448183d-55b5-41eb-b81b-e8454142e184_783x669.png 424w, 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data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/5448183d-55b5-41eb-b81b-e8454142e184_783x669.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:669,&quot;width&quot;:783,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ONiu!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5448183d-55b5-41eb-b81b-e8454142e184_783x669.png 424w, 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stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p><br></p><p><a href="https://s26.q4cdn.com/577104185/files/doc_earnings/2023/q4/earnings-result/COLB-2023-Q4-Earnings-Release.pdf">https://s26.q4cdn.com/577104185/files/doc_earnings/2023/q4/earnings-result/COLB-2023-Q4-Earnings-Release.pdf<br><br></a>1) Merger related expense(7 Million in Q4) with regards to its merger with Umpqua bank. The expense is decreasing quarter by quarter, and we expect this to turn negligible by the first half of 2024. <br>2) FDIC Assessments(33 Million in Q4), which can be explained via the 10-K:<br></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!HOLH!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5016df91-ba42-4e6c-9f6f-586aaa3769fd_1255x278.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!HOLH!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5016df91-ba42-4e6c-9f6f-586aaa3769fd_1255x278.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!HOLH!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5016df91-ba42-4e6c-9f6f-586aaa3769fd_1255x278.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!HOLH!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5016df91-ba42-4e6c-9f6f-586aaa3769fd_1255x278.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!HOLH!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5016df91-ba42-4e6c-9f6f-586aaa3769fd_1255x278.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!HOLH!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5016df91-ba42-4e6c-9f6f-586aaa3769fd_1255x278.png" width="1255" height="278" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/5016df91-ba42-4e6c-9f6f-586aaa3769fd_1255x278.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:278,&quot;width&quot;:1255,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!HOLH!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5016df91-ba42-4e6c-9f6f-586aaa3769fd_1255x278.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!HOLH!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5016df91-ba42-4e6c-9f6f-586aaa3769fd_1255x278.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!HOLH!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5016df91-ba42-4e6c-9f6f-586aaa3769fd_1255x278.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!HOLH!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5016df91-ba42-4e6c-9f6f-586aaa3769fd_1255x278.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><p><br><br>Basically, the next time COLB incurs FDIC(Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation) assessment fees(standard probes by a governmental agency) as much as 33 million dollars in a single quarter, it will be at the end of 2024, according to our understanding. This is ample time for COLB to cut back on other one-off expenses, as explained by management in their fourth-quarter earning call:<br></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!y4ME!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9adbadaf-197c-4457-a5a7-5f4134eea555_839x279.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!y4ME!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9adbadaf-197c-4457-a5a7-5f4134eea555_839x279.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!y4ME!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9adbadaf-197c-4457-a5a7-5f4134eea555_839x279.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!y4ME!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9adbadaf-197c-4457-a5a7-5f4134eea555_839x279.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!y4ME!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9adbadaf-197c-4457-a5a7-5f4134eea555_839x279.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!y4ME!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9adbadaf-197c-4457-a5a7-5f4134eea555_839x279.png" width="839" height="279" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/9adbadaf-197c-4457-a5a7-5f4134eea555_839x279.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:279,&quot;width&quot;:839,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!y4ME!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9adbadaf-197c-4457-a5a7-5f4134eea555_839x279.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!y4ME!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9adbadaf-197c-4457-a5a7-5f4134eea555_839x279.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!y4ME!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9adbadaf-197c-4457-a5a7-5f4134eea555_839x279.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!y4ME!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9adbadaf-197c-4457-a5a7-5f4134eea555_839x279.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" 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y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p><br><br><a href="https://capedge.com/transcript/887343/2023Q4/COLB">https://capedge.com/transcript/887343/2023Q4/COLB<br><br></a>As it is clearly said, some expense line items in Q4 2023 were &#8216;elevated, and not expected to continue at those levels&#8217;.&nbsp;</p><p>Bottom line- in Q1 2024, the 3<strong>3 million FDIC expense would vanish</strong>, so would some of the merger expense, and some of the extra &#8216;expense line items&#8217; as well.</p><p>The main perpetrator of the selloff is, ultimately, the FDIC assessment costs- something the market fails to recognise as an expense which will only be incurred at the <strong>end of every year, for the next 8 quarters(2 years).</strong></p><p>A 20% drop with an increase in revenue can only signal that the market is misinformed about the nature of the expenses, <strong>since it was the net income that ultimately &#8216;disappointed&#8217; the market(EPS disappointed by about 44%, while revenue disappointed by only 3%)</strong></p><p><em><strong>Part II: Absurdly low historic valuations:<br></strong></em></p><p>Since this writeup mostly focuses on a short-term trade based on the market being slightly &#8216;misguided&#8217; according to us, we won&#8217;t pay a lot of attention to valuation. However, a few figures we just snagged from <a href="https://simplywall.st/stocks/us/banks/nasdaq-colb/columbia-banking-system">Simply Wall Street</a>:<br></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!fFet!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F50017acc-6966-48ea-997c-9a21ad1e0972_910x523.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!fFet!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F50017acc-6966-48ea-997c-9a21ad1e0972_910x523.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!fFet!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F50017acc-6966-48ea-997c-9a21ad1e0972_910x523.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!fFet!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F50017acc-6966-48ea-997c-9a21ad1e0972_910x523.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!fFet!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F50017acc-6966-48ea-997c-9a21ad1e0972_910x523.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!fFet!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F50017acc-6966-48ea-997c-9a21ad1e0972_910x523.png" width="910" height="523" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/50017acc-6966-48ea-997c-9a21ad1e0972_910x523.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:523,&quot;width&quot;:910,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!fFet!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F50017acc-6966-48ea-997c-9a21ad1e0972_910x523.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!fFet!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F50017acc-6966-48ea-997c-9a21ad1e0972_910x523.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!fFet!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F50017acc-6966-48ea-997c-9a21ad1e0972_910x523.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!fFet!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F50017acc-6966-48ea-997c-9a21ad1e0972_910x523.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p><br>(COLB trades at a 2.3x PS ratio, with the average being 5.1x. This implies about 100% upside according to <a href="https://simplywall.st/stocks/us/banks/nasdaq-colb/columbia-banking-system">simply wall st.</a>)<br><br></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!sWUG!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F98348854-68eb-4315-a246-d9509b927271_896x546.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!sWUG!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F98348854-68eb-4315-a246-d9509b927271_896x546.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!sWUG!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F98348854-68eb-4315-a246-d9509b927271_896x546.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!sWUG!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F98348854-68eb-4315-a246-d9509b927271_896x546.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!sWUG!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F98348854-68eb-4315-a246-d9509b927271_896x546.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!sWUG!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F98348854-68eb-4315-a246-d9509b927271_896x546.png" width="896" height="546" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/98348854-68eb-4315-a246-d9509b927271_896x546.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:546,&quot;width&quot;:896,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!sWUG!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F98348854-68eb-4315-a246-d9509b927271_896x546.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!sWUG!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F98348854-68eb-4315-a246-d9509b927271_896x546.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!sWUG!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F98348854-68eb-4315-a246-d9509b927271_896x546.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!sWUG!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F98348854-68eb-4315-a246-d9509b927271_896x546.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>COLB, again, trades at 11.6x PE ratio, with peer average being 15.1x. This implies about 30% upside.</p><p>If we plot the historic Price-To-Sales ratio of COLB, we get:<br></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!p8Mx!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F06409b47-2b07-4a4a-9bb0-e6430a3327d3_1147x534.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!p8Mx!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F06409b47-2b07-4a4a-9bb0-e6430a3327d3_1147x534.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!p8Mx!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F06409b47-2b07-4a4a-9bb0-e6430a3327d3_1147x534.png 848w, 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data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/06409b47-2b07-4a4a-9bb0-e6430a3327d3_1147x534.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:534,&quot;width&quot;:1147,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!p8Mx!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F06409b47-2b07-4a4a-9bb0-e6430a3327d3_1147x534.png 424w, 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stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p><strong>A historic low.</strong></p><p>Something interesting, however, can be seen with its historic PE ratio valuation:<br></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!mhp1!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Feab09514-6f72-4bc4-bbfb-954ce2ef4da2_1145x632.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!mhp1!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Feab09514-6f72-4bc4-bbfb-954ce2ef4da2_1145x632.png 424w, 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data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/eab09514-6f72-4bc4-bbfb-954ce2ef4da2_1145x632.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:632,&quot;width&quot;:1145,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!mhp1!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Feab09514-6f72-4bc4-bbfb-954ce2ef4da2_1145x632.png 424w, 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stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p><br>Wherever there is a callout sign of &#8216;PE: 11&#8217;, those are the points in time where COLB had a PE ratio of about 11. The lowest historic price of COLB when it had a PE ratio of 11 prior to now was when it was trading at about 24 USD per share- implying upside of atleast 20%. The highest price, when COLB had a PE ratio of 11, was when it was trading at about 40 USD a share, implying about 100% upside.</p><p><strong>Mr. Market has granted us, regular investors, an opportunity to capitalise by buying a mispriced stock at historically cheap valuations. Best part ? Management realises this, and have been racking up shares.</strong></p><p><em><strong>Part III: Management realises the absurd bargain and the untapped value in the stock</strong></em></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!1aeF!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fffb6e088-f3cb-4816-bdfd-b4862ac30367_1200x497.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!1aeF!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fffb6e088-f3cb-4816-bdfd-b4862ac30367_1200x497.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!1aeF!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fffb6e088-f3cb-4816-bdfd-b4862ac30367_1200x497.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!1aeF!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fffb6e088-f3cb-4816-bdfd-b4862ac30367_1200x497.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!1aeF!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fffb6e088-f3cb-4816-bdfd-b4862ac30367_1200x497.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!1aeF!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fffb6e088-f3cb-4816-bdfd-b4862ac30367_1200x497.png" 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https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!1aeF!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fffb6e088-f3cb-4816-bdfd-b4862ac30367_1200x497.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!1aeF!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fffb6e088-f3cb-4816-bdfd-b4862ac30367_1200x497.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!1aeF!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fffb6e088-f3cb-4816-bdfd-b4862ac30367_1200x497.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!YDGN!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6cfdfde2-11bf-42c3-b566-c92f6a341324_1200x497.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!YDGN!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6cfdfde2-11bf-42c3-b566-c92f6a341324_1200x497.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!YDGN!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6cfdfde2-11bf-42c3-b566-c92f6a341324_1200x497.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!YDGN!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6cfdfde2-11bf-42c3-b566-c92f6a341324_1200x497.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!YDGN!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6cfdfde2-11bf-42c3-b566-c92f6a341324_1200x497.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!YDGN!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6cfdfde2-11bf-42c3-b566-c92f6a341324_1200x497.png" width="1200" height="497" 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https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!YDGN!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6cfdfde2-11bf-42c3-b566-c92f6a341324_1200x497.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!YDGN!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6cfdfde2-11bf-42c3-b566-c92f6a341324_1200x497.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!YDGN!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6cfdfde2-11bf-42c3-b566-c92f6a341324_1200x497.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p><br>Does this chart need any explanation at all ?</p><p>After the sell off post-earnings, management has clearly realised that the market is misguided, and that COLB is poised to make a comeback in the coming months, and just like every other team of executives, they want to get rich(not always good- but in this case, we&#8217;ll give them the benefit of the doubt haha)</p><p>For instance:<br></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!s-px!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fcb99aea4-1563-4e0d-9e4c-fa45918263cc_687x504.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!s-px!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fcb99aea4-1563-4e0d-9e4c-fa45918263cc_687x504.png" width="687" height="504" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/cb99aea4-1563-4e0d-9e4c-fa45918263cc_687x504.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:504,&quot;width&quot;:687,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" 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class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>It is pretty evident that the trades were done post-drop.</p><p>The cluster buying is by the following executives:<br></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!GDXc!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F62de813e-d3f3-4d05-a664-517c7d594942_1213x547.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>Amidst selling pressure of a stock, the set of people that have the most informed idea of a stock&#8217;s future moves, is ultimately management. There&#8217;s a saying: &#8220;<strong>Management can sell stock for any reason, but they buy for onle one: The think the stock price will go up</strong>&#8221; and what better set of people is there to base trading decisions on ?</p><p><em><strong>Conclusion:<br><br></strong></em>While we do are not pitching COLB as a hold-forever stock, we are sure as hell that it is one of the most attractive short-term opportunities. It provides a positive asymmetric return opportunity, due to all the reasons listed above- and the best part ? <strong>Management agrees with me, based on buying behaviour.&nbsp;<br></strong></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!VQuP!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe362c716-0ea2-4a27-8d01-682074e57b9c_687x504.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!VQuP!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe362c716-0ea2-4a27-8d01-682074e57b9c_687x504.png 424w, 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y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>Again, there is always the argument that &#8220;markets can stay irrational longer than you can stay solvent&#8221;. Well, the margin of safety is the following:<br><br>- Even total liabilities deducted from an total assets amount more COLB&#8217;s market cap(assetts-liabilites=5B)</p><p>- COLB&#8217;s annual revenues have been in a constant state of increase since 2017, even though COLB&#8217;s stock is down about 55% since 2017:<br></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!dibK!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7f45b9bf-237f-424d-bd7e-46f2e523c87b_1177x213.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!dibK!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7f45b9bf-237f-424d-bd7e-46f2e523c87b_1177x213.png 424w, 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y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[Coupang(CPNG): An undervalued diamond in the rough ]]></title><description><![CDATA[Read https://researchragnarok.substack.com/about for disclaimer on buy-sell posts. This is not investment advice. Do your own due diligence before any decisions. We are not responsible for any losses]]></description><link>https://researchragnarok.com/p/coupangcpng-an-undervalued-diamond</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://researchragnarok.com/p/coupangcpng-an-undervalued-diamond</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Ragnarok Research]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 02 Jan 2024 16:02:20 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!mn-U!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7766c9ec-9a53-4abe-b389-2f7b0a4953e9_1456x848.png" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is going to be a very short and rough writeup on why I&#8217;m BULLISH on the shares of CPNG. The reason it is very short is because I am building off of the amazing work done by other traders on Twitter, such as Logical Thesis, etc. All in all the thesis boils down to the following investment theses:</p><ol><li><p>We see a lot of similarities between AMZN/BABA a few years ago, and CPNG now. But, Coupang&#8217;s narrative is far less optimistic than that. We provide the reasons why the market is underestimating the likeness between CPNG and the other big E-Commerce stocks.</p></li><li><p>One of the reasons for a slight decline in Coupang&#8217;s earnings is due to &#8216;higher content costs&#8217; associated with its &#8216;Coupang Play&#8217; app. But Coupang Play has very recently exhibited explosive growth in installations and usage, and we think that Coupang Play is on track to earn higher revenues, enabling them to fully cover &#8216;content costs&#8217;.</p></li><li><p>The stock seems to have found a stable support right about current levels, and seems like it is poised for a breakout.</p></li><li><p>Shares have been beaten down so much that they are a bargain at this point</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" 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Public Benefit Corporation ? We don't think so]]></title><description><![CDATA[Read https://researchragnarok.substack.com/about for disclaimer on buy-sell posts. This is not investment advice. Do your own due diligence before any decisions. We are not responsible for any losses]]></description><link>https://researchragnarok.com/p/vita-coco-a-weak-and-unethical-supply</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://researchragnarok.com/p/vita-coco-a-weak-and-unethical-supply</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Ragnarok Research]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 18 Oct 2023 13:37:22 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!6KrX!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F57b91b40-8602-43a4-b83d-a19d0c9810bf_1325x819.png" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><strong>Vita Coco Company: An overvalued business which has undisclosed Supply Chain problems, coupled with loss of distributors and partnerships with unethical companies.</strong></p></blockquote><p></p><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://researchragnarok.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">Thanks for reading Ragnarok Research! Subscribe for free to receive new posts and support my work.</p></div><form class="subscription-widget-subscribe"><input type="email" class="email-input" name="email" placeholder="Type your email&#8230;" tabindex="-1"><input type="submit" class="button primary" value="Subscribe"><div class="fake-input-wrapper"><div class="fake-input"></div><div class="fake-button"></div></div></form></div></div><blockquote><p>1) The Vita Coco Company(COCO) is an American beverage company which sells coconut water. It has had an impressive stock boost of about 100% YTD, due to increased revenue and market share. But, we at Ragnarok Research think that this will not last due to upcoming problems.</p><p>2) Vita Coco announced that they were losing one of their biggest customers, who were responsible for about 20% of their revenues. Still, the stock is up by an impressive margin. But, our real thesis is that Vita Coco might be having some undisclosed supplier problems, as their main supplier of Coconut water is facing serious litigations in Brazil.<br><br>3) Vita Coco is a public benefit corporation and claims to do business by &#8216;harnessing, while protecting, nature&#8217;s resources for the betterment of the world&#8217; and &#8216;creating ethical, sustainable, better-for-you beverages and consumer products that uplift communities and do right by the planet&#8217;. <br>But, we think Vita Coco has a partnership with a company(which is a part of COCO&#8217;s supply chain) which engages in criminal activities and fraudulent business activities by endangering tribal lives in Brazil.<br><br>4) Expanding upon the point above, we think that it is not unlikely that Vita Coco has sourced coconuts from entities that may have engaged in Child labour. A good chunk of Vita Coco&#8217;s coconuts come from Philippine regions where more than half of the coconuts produced have children involved in the exporting process somehow. Is Vita Coco sourcing from here for &#8216;cheap labour&#8217; ?<br><br>5) Vita Coco has the characteristics of a pump-and-dump, where insiders are looking to cash out. Insiders have a shelf offering to sell 26 million shares of Vita Coco. This is about half the shares outstanding of Vita Coco, which is 56 Million shares.<br><br>6) Vita Coco insiders are selling their shares and cashing out.<br><br>7) Verlinvest Beverages SA, COCO&#8217;s largest shareholder, is the same entity behind the Otaly scam, and there is a lot of influence of Verlinvest in Vita Coco&#8217;s Board of Directors.</p></blockquote><h1>Reasons why we think COCO&#8217;s shares will drop in value in the mid-term:</h1><h4></h4><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://researchragnarok.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe now&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="https://researchragnarok.com/subscribe?"><span>Subscribe now</span></a></p><h4>1) Problems with Distributor and Supply Chain:</h4><p>Vita Coco has already disclosed in its most recent quarterly filing that it will be losing one of its biggest customers, which accounted for about 15-20% of their revenues:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!6KrX!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F57b91b40-8602-43a4-b83d-a19d0c9810bf_1325x819.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!6KrX!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F57b91b40-8602-43a4-b83d-a19d0c9810bf_1325x819.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!6KrX!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F57b91b40-8602-43a4-b83d-a19d0c9810bf_1325x819.png 848w, 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y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p><br>This should already have investors worried about Vita Coco&#8217;s future outlook.<br>But there&#8217;s more!</p><p>Vita Coco heavily depends on its supply chain, which puts it at considerable risk:<br></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!IbPV!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd9cdc064-3c72-44f4-a431-40ec66c99a86_1318x208.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!IbPV!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd9cdc064-3c72-44f4-a431-40ec66c99a86_1318x208.png 424w, 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y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>According to ImportGenius(As given above), one of Vita Coco&#8217;s top suppliers is an entity in Brazil called &#8216;Ducoco&#8217;, which owns coconut farms and exports coconut water to Vita Coco. As seen in the figure above, Vita Coco depends heavily on Ducoco.<br><br>We have recently come across some evidence that Ducoco might present a weak link in Vita Coco&#8217;s supply chain due to the amount of litigation it faces. <br>According to Brazilian media outlets and sources such as <a href="https://midianinja.org/news/ducoco-marca-brasileira-extrai-coco-em-fazendas-sobrepostas-a-terra-indigena-no-ceara/">News</a>, it turns out that Ducoco has engaged in land grabbing and notary fraud by stealing land from the Trememb&#233; de Almofala Indigenous Land (TI) in the municipality of Itarema.<br>According to a report &#8216;Os Invasores: quem s&#227;o os empres&#225;rios brasileiros e estrangeiros com mais sobreposi&#231;&#245;es em terras ind&#237;genas&#8217; by a rural journalist group in Brazil, one of the properties, Fazenda S&#227;o Gabriel, has 76.7% of its extension overlapping the IT. The second property, known as Fazenda Aguap&#233;, also has 274.83 hectares within the Trememb&#233; territory. Although the process of demarcation of the Trememb&#233; de Almofala TI began in 1986, the history of the Trememb&#233; territory is centuries old, having been where indigenous people have lived since 1857. The historical relationship between indigenous people and the territory began to be completely disrespected after the company Ducoco, whose headquarters were located in S&#227;o Paulo.:<br><br></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!y6ts!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd81f5108-71b6-4595-9b2a-19ef56b87408_650x300.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!y6ts!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd81f5108-71b6-4595-9b2a-19ef56b87408_650x300.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!y6ts!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd81f5108-71b6-4595-9b2a-19ef56b87408_650x300.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!y6ts!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd81f5108-71b6-4595-9b2a-19ef56b87408_650x300.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!y6ts!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd81f5108-71b6-4595-9b2a-19ef56b87408_650x300.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!y6ts!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd81f5108-71b6-4595-9b2a-19ef56b87408_650x300.jpeg" width="650" height="300" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/d81f5108-71b6-4595-9b2a-19ef56b87408_650x300.jpeg&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:300,&quot;width&quot;:650,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:&quot;Expansion of coconut plantations threatens the Trememb&#233; ...&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="Expansion of coconut plantations threatens the Trememb&#233; ..." title="Expansion of coconut plantations threatens the Trememb&#233; ..." srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!y6ts!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd81f5108-71b6-4595-9b2a-19ef56b87408_650x300.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!y6ts!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd81f5108-71b6-4595-9b2a-19ef56b87408_650x300.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!y6ts!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd81f5108-71b6-4595-9b2a-19ef56b87408_650x300.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!y6ts!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd81f5108-71b6-4595-9b2a-19ef56b87408_650x300.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p><br><br>We think this is unethical in Vita Coco&#8217;s supply chain.<br>But, the land might be taken away by Ducoco and given to the indigenous people of Trememb&#233; territory.<br><br>The demarcation process has already begun, and Ducoco recently appealed to the court for the nullity of this demarcation. <br>In February 2023, Ducoco requested the nullity of the demarcation process for the TI Trememb&#233; de Almofala. The request was denied by Judge Marcelo Sampaio, of the 27th Federal Court of Itapipoca (CE). <br>In his decision, the judge found inconsistencies in the company's version, pointing to a possible sign of land grabbing or notary fraud:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!KXGV!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fcdc917ab-93c0-446e-8e10-fa7b910da50f_1129x1230.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!KXGV!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fcdc917ab-93c0-446e-8e10-fa7b910da50f_1129x1230.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!KXGV!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fcdc917ab-93c0-446e-8e10-fa7b910da50f_1129x1230.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!KXGV!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fcdc917ab-93c0-446e-8e10-fa7b910da50f_1129x1230.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!KXGV!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fcdc917ab-93c0-446e-8e10-fa7b910da50f_1129x1230.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!KXGV!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fcdc917ab-93c0-446e-8e10-fa7b910da50f_1129x1230.png" width="1129" height="1230" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/cdc917ab-93c0-446e-8e10-fa7b910da50f_1129x1230.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:1230,&quot;width&quot;:1129,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:232526,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!KXGV!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fcdc917ab-93c0-446e-8e10-fa7b910da50f_1129x1230.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!KXGV!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fcdc917ab-93c0-446e-8e10-fa7b910da50f_1129x1230.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!KXGV!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fcdc917ab-93c0-446e-8e10-fa7b910da50f_1129x1230.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!KXGV!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fcdc917ab-93c0-446e-8e10-fa7b910da50f_1129x1230.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p><br>This is related to Ducoco. But, due to very recent developments, all companies using tribal land for corporate uses will suffer a loss of assets, since the Supreme Court gave the following ruling:<br></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!fAx4!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa2fdcf9a-bd60-4481-90d1-7bf27866deea_1440x1246.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!fAx4!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa2fdcf9a-bd60-4481-90d1-7bf27866deea_1440x1246.png 424w, 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y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>This, according to us, puts even more pressure on Ducoco since this demarcation operation will be carried out throughout Brazil:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!cvzk!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F421dcc0d-c9c9-4817-9a1d-e0c5abaf4929_1398x558.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!cvzk!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F421dcc0d-c9c9-4817-9a1d-e0c5abaf4929_1398x558.png 424w, 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y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p><br>Although there have been efforts to curb the court&#8217;s decision by the Senate, Brazilian President Lula is expected to side with the Indigenous People.<br><br>We feel that this crucial link in Vita Coco&#8217;s supply chain can snap at any moment, considering that the very existence of Ducoco is in question:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!KFOJ!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9f96f56a-b9c9-46da-94fe-03c6d1d41f86_1898x393.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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think it&#8217;s absurd that Vita Coco would have any ties with such a corrupt and disastrous company.<br><br>All in all, this could spell trouble for Vita Coco. We also question Vita Coco&#8217;s  decision to stick such a disgrace to a company. Ducoco has been accused of violence and destroying the tribal people&#8217;s homes. This is a conflict of interest of Vita Coco, considering it is a Public Benefit Corporation.</p><h4>2) Child labour involved in Vita Coco&#8217;s supply chain ?</h4><p>While the above points detailed our investigation of Brazil, we will now comment on what we think of Vita Coco&#8217;s supply chain in the Philippines.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!dYIu!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3db32c94-fcec-44eb-9ab2-3d49eef6a9b7_871x1199.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!dYIu!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3db32c94-fcec-44eb-9ab2-3d49eef6a9b7_871x1199.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!dYIu!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3db32c94-fcec-44eb-9ab2-3d49eef6a9b7_871x1199.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!dYIu!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3db32c94-fcec-44eb-9ab2-3d49eef6a9b7_871x1199.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!dYIu!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3db32c94-fcec-44eb-9ab2-3d49eef6a9b7_871x1199.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!dYIu!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3db32c94-fcec-44eb-9ab2-3d49eef6a9b7_871x1199.png" width="871" height="1199" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/3db32c94-fcec-44eb-9ab2-3d49eef6a9b7_871x1199.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:1199,&quot;width&quot;:871,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:1225939,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!dYIu!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3db32c94-fcec-44eb-9ab2-3d49eef6a9b7_871x1199.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!dYIu!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3db32c94-fcec-44eb-9ab2-3d49eef6a9b7_871x1199.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!dYIu!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3db32c94-fcec-44eb-9ab2-3d49eef6a9b7_871x1199.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!dYIu!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3db32c94-fcec-44eb-9ab2-3d49eef6a9b7_871x1199.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>A large part of coconuts from the Phillippines come from a region called Mindanao. We have evidence from the US Department of Labour that shows that there is a lot of child labour schemes in Mindanao:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!DqDZ!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F15d7969f-c8ff-42ca-8a0f-514829182a6a_859x838.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!DqDZ!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F15d7969f-c8ff-42ca-8a0f-514829182a6a_859x838.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!DqDZ!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F15d7969f-c8ff-42ca-8a0f-514829182a6a_859x838.png 848w, 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stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>The DOL  also published specifically about <a href="https://www.dol.gov/agencies/ilab/child-labor-supply-chain-coconut-crop-agriculturein-aleosan-north-cotabato">coconut supply chains relating to Child Labou</a>r.<br><br>Even though this data is not exactly conclusive, we shall leave it here merely as a data point which may or may not matter in the future.<br></p><h4>3) Is this all a conflict of interest since Vita Coco is a Public Benefit Corporation?</h4><p>Vita Coco has done a lot of promotion, citing its loyalty to agriculture and the environment. But do these recent claims even hold any value?<br><br>We are attaching the following letter to management:<br><br><em>Dear Vita Coco Management,</em></p><p><em>I am writing to express my grave concern and disappointment regarding Vita Coco's recent business dealings with a Brazilian company, Ducoco, accused of engaging in corrupt practices and causing severe harm to tribal communities in Brazil.<br><br>Ducoco has been involved in the Brazilian Marco Temporal Thesis, where corporations have chased indigenous people away from their homes to farm coconuts/soybeans, etc.<br>Ducoco is also related to various other frauds and corruptions highlighted by <a href="https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opera%C3%A7%C3%A3o_Lava_Jato">Operation Lava Jato</a>.<br><br>Vita Coco is a Public Benefit Corporation, promising to protect natural resources, build thriving communities, and champion health and wellness.<br>You claim to help farmers in countries in your Supply Chain.<br>Then how is it possible that Vita Coco can have any ties with a company with values and mottos conflicting with yours? <br><br>We feel the need to hear a response from your management about this. Please issue a response regarding your involvement with Ducoco, especially since this involvement negates every claim and promotional stunt you have done so far about your &#8216;ESG Impact&#8217;<br><br>Regards,<br>Ragnarok Research</em><br><br><br></p><h4>4) Characteristics of a Pump-and-Dump?</h4><p>Vita Coco has about 56 Million shares outstanding, but Insiders have a shelf offering of about 26 Million. Most of these is by Verlinvest Beverages. Coco&#8217;s stock is still up because Insiders owns a large number of shares. <br>We strongly believe that Verlinvest will sell its shares, and COCO will lose most of its value:<br></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!dAne!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1b3426ec-b5b8-4879-863b-1ab02c1f3891_1600x220.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!dAne!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1b3426ec-b5b8-4879-863b-1ab02c1f3891_1600x220.png 424w, 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stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>There is a strong intention to cash out, according to us.</p><h4>5) The Cashing out has already begun:<br></h4><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_-lR!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa1b0e439-8ee0-431d-bf84-e54afa53b981_2178x426.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_-lR!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa1b0e439-8ee0-431d-bf84-e54afa53b981_2178x426.png 424w, 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href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!S_jl!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F09ff96f6-6cda-494f-8793-f1a4ff878015.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!S_jl!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F09ff96f6-6cda-494f-8793-f1a4ff878015.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!S_jl!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F09ff96f6-6cda-494f-8793-f1a4ff878015.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!S_jl!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F09ff96f6-6cda-494f-8793-f1a4ff878015.png 1272w, 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y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p></p><h4>6) Supplier and Distributor problems are already manifesting:<br></h4><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Zbq5!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F791804dc-bb41-4abb-90e6-367714e80f8d_1199x518.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Zbq5!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F791804dc-bb41-4abb-90e6-367714e80f8d_1199x518.png 424w, 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stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p></p><h4>7) The track record of Verlinvest Beverages:</h4><p>Verlinvest Beverages own a huge stake in Vita Coco:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!nudy!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa5e47be2-0778-4e93-acec-801366cffa0e_1411x963.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!nudy!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa5e47be2-0778-4e93-acec-801366cffa0e_1411x963.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!nudy!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa5e47be2-0778-4e93-acec-801366cffa0e_1411x963.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!nudy!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa5e47be2-0778-4e93-acec-801366cffa0e_1411x963.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!nudy!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa5e47be2-0778-4e93-acec-801366cffa0e_1411x963.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!nudy!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa5e47be2-0778-4e93-acec-801366cffa0e_1411x963.png" width="1411" height="963" 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https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!nudy!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa5e47be2-0778-4e93-acec-801366cffa0e_1411x963.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!nudy!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa5e47be2-0778-4e93-acec-801366cffa0e_1411x963.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!nudy!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa5e47be2-0778-4e93-acec-801366cffa0e_1411x963.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" 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y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p><br>But, Verlinvest Beverages is also affiliated with another company: </p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!J4pt!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1158a76b-4152-45a2-86d1-91f40d03156f_1628x1273.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!J4pt!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1158a76b-4152-45a2-86d1-91f40d03156f_1628x1273.png 424w, 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https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!J4pt!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1158a76b-4152-45a2-86d1-91f40d03156f_1628x1273.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!J4pt!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1158a76b-4152-45a2-86d1-91f40d03156f_1628x1273.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!J4pt!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1158a76b-4152-45a2-86d1-91f40d03156f_1628x1273.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" 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y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p><br>Oatly is the only other publicly traded Beverage stock that Verlinvest has backed, and it turned out to be a massive scam.<br><br>First off, let us re-iterate that out of COCO&#8217;s 9 Board members, 4 of them are related to Verlinvest:<br><br>Aishetu Fatima Dozie: Elected by Verlinvest<br>Eric Melloul: Managing director of Verlinvest and Co-chairman of the Board at Oatly<br>John Leahy: Elected by Verlinvest<br>Kenneth Sadowsky: Advisor at Verlinvest<br><br>The influence of Verlinvest in Vita Coco is evident.<br>Oatly, heavily influenced by Verlinvest, it was so outrageous that they made a website detailing their own scams, PR failures, lawsuits, and more. 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A 100% increase from January is completely unwarranted, and we firmly think that this stock will crash. It currently boasts of a PE ratio of 54, while other Non-Alcoholic brands, such as Monster(PE: 35) , Dr. Pepper(PE: 24) are relatively unervalued.<br>By reading any of our posts, you agree to do your own due diligence before making any investment decisions. You agree that the authors of this publication are in no way responsible for your investment decisions, and are not liable for any of your possible investment losses, and you also agree to acknowledge that we are do not guarantee any accuracy in our research. You agree to also not proceed with any legal action against us.<br><br>The authors of this publication do not give any buy or sell recommendations and do not ensure any correctness to our claims or findings. Under no circumstances would you hold the authors liable for any investment losses. One should assume that any sentence or statement in our posts can be inaccurate and factually incorrect and should not influence anyone&#8217;s investing.<br>Sincerely,<br>Ragnarok Research</p>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[Duolingo(DUOL): An overvalued business with a broken product]]></title><description><![CDATA[Read https://researchragnarok.substack.com/about for disclaimer on buy-sell posts. This is not investment advice. Do your own due diligence before any decisions. We are not responsible for any losses]]></description><link>https://researchragnarok.com/p/duolingoduol-an-overvalued-business</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://researchragnarok.com/p/duolingoduol-an-overvalued-business</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Ragnarok Research]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 12 Oct 2023 16:39:09 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!TXa_!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F705d6807-8fc1-4ec0-94cc-115cbfcb89c8_2722x968.png" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><h1><strong>Duolingo Inc: An overvaluation unlike no other</strong></h1><p></p><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://researchragnarok.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">Thanks for reading Ragnarok Research! Subscribe for free to receive new posts and support my work.</p></div><form class="subscription-widget-subscribe"><input type="email" class="email-input" name="email" placeholder="Type your email&#8230;" tabindex="-1"><input type="submit" class="button primary" value="Subscribe"><div class="fake-input-wrapper"><div class="fake-input"></div><div class="fake-button"></div></div></form></div></div><p> Duolingo Inc.(DUOL) is an American education company mostly sepcialised in its language courses. Duolingo&#8217;s shares have pumped about 150% YTD, but we think this increase is extremely unwarranted:</p><p>1)  We have found some weaknesses in Duolingo&#8217;s software, which can be detrimental to Duolingo&#8217;s revenue if enough users find out about it. Duolingo&#8217;s main revenue comes from subscriptions to its premium versions of its language learning app, but we have found vulnerabilities which enable users to access the most valuable perk of the paid version: the Unlimited heart. This showcases a lack of diligence in making a product.<br><br>2)  We have found potential flaws with Duolingo&#8217;s business model and products, and we think that Duolingo&#8217;s shares will suffer due to our predicted headwinds on the stock. We also think that Duolingo&#8217;s reported metrics such as monthly active users(MAU) might be inflated.<br><br>3)  We have uncovered both public and anonymous accounts of Duolingo utilising unethical business practices to increase revenue. This includes charging money after a premium account without actually granting the premium account, and in some cases, charging a user the full free after a free trial period ends, without informing them of deduction from their bank account, DESPITE promising to inform the user of this transaction. Duolingo has been known to cease all communications with the user post-transaction.<br><br>4)  Duolingo&#8217;s IPO was backed by Durable Capital Partners LP, but its previous IPO sponsors have had a bad track record:<br>WRBY stock: -73.25% since IPO<br>YOU stock: -58% since IPO<br>Also, Duolingo&#8217;s net margins are positive right now mostly due to their interest income, which cannot be sustainable on the long-run according to us.<br><br>5) Duolingo has done a lot of promotion using the fact that they have incorporated AI into their Duolingo MAX platform. But, Duolingo MAX costs 30 USD while GPT-4 costs just 20 USD. As time goes on, we think users would switch to GPT-4(given they have released vocal conversations now). We think these LLMs like GPT-4 or Bard will kill Duolingo MAX&#8217;s demand.<br><br>6) Increased Insider sales. Durable Capital have already started to cash out.</p></blockquote><p></p><h4><strong>Reasons why we think DUOL will suffer:</strong></h4><ul><li><p><strong>We have found a weakness in DUOL&#8217;s software, which might be evidence of Duolingo&#8217;s low-quality products</strong>:<br>According to our research, the primary motivation for users to upgrade from Duolingo&#8217;s free version is to be able to earn more than 5 &#8216;hearts&#8217;(where &#8216;hearts&#8217; are &#8216;lives&#8217; where a user cannot continue their Duolingo lesson if he/her makes more than five mistakes).<br>However, there is an unintentional bug to override this restriction, and we think that this is due to DUOL&#8217;s lack of seriousness in making the product.<br>Method: <em>Just registering through a &#8216;teachers account&#8217; and registering a null class with it:<br></em><br>There is an apparent bug in Duolingo&#8217;s system where it is pretty easy to gain unlimited hearts.<br>It involves swiftly logging in through a &#8216;Duolingo for schools page, entering a language to learn, and a &#8216;class name&#8217;, which could be anything of a user&#8217;s choosing.<br>After this, the user is automatically granted unlimited hearts, but our research tells us that most Duolingo users don&#8217;t know about this &#8216;hack&#8217; or &#8216;bug&#8217;.<br><br>The lack of verification in Duolingo&#8217;s systems could be a method for losses of revenues and also a piece of evidence for the lack of quality in Duolingo&#8217;s products.<br></p><p><br> We also have concerns about Duolingo&#8217;s safety since it suffered a data breach:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!TXa_!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F705d6807-8fc1-4ec0-94cc-115cbfcb89c8_2722x968.png" 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y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>Data about users were released publicly in the format:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!eQzI!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb40aeae5-8c95-456a-be94-d545bd202b6f_707x97.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!eQzI!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb40aeae5-8c95-456a-be94-d545bd202b6f_707x97.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!eQzI!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb40aeae5-8c95-456a-be94-d545bd202b6f_707x97.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!eQzI!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb40aeae5-8c95-456a-be94-d545bd202b6f_707x97.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!eQzI!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb40aeae5-8c95-456a-be94-d545bd202b6f_707x97.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!eQzI!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb40aeae5-8c95-456a-be94-d545bd202b6f_707x97.png" width="707" height="97" 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https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!eQzI!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb40aeae5-8c95-456a-be94-d545bd202b6f_707x97.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!eQzI!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb40aeae5-8c95-456a-be94-d545bd202b6f_707x97.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!eQzI!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb40aeae5-8c95-456a-be94-d545bd202b6f_707x97.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" fetchpriority="high"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>The API used to scrape and attain this dataset is still vulnerable, according to us, and it can be used by hackers and scammers for social engineering attacks, such as phishing emails, using the plethora of information disclosed by the breach.<br><br>Even though Duolingo was alerted of this API vulnerability in January, no corrective action was taken until the actual release of the dataset. After this release, the only precaution was a rate limit, which is not too effective since some data can still be scraped.<br><br>This dataset puts the 2.6 million users at risk of phishing attacks and credential stuffing.</p></li><li><p><strong>Duolingo&#8217;s potential inflated user metrics:<br></strong>Duolingo has reported in its most recent Q2 2023 filing that its MAU &#8216;Monthly Active Users&#8217; were about 74 million.<br></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!RbPd!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F37224812-563a-42a2-a2d7-ab60a4512f2b_1428x374.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!RbPd!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F37224812-563a-42a2-a2d7-ab60a4512f2b_1428x374.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!RbPd!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F37224812-563a-42a2-a2d7-ab60a4512f2b_1428x374.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!RbPd!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F37224812-563a-42a2-a2d7-ab60a4512f2b_1428x374.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!RbPd!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F37224812-563a-42a2-a2d7-ab60a4512f2b_1428x374.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!RbPd!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F37224812-563a-42a2-a2d7-ab60a4512f2b_1428x374.png" width="1428" height="374" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/37224812-563a-42a2-a2d7-ab60a4512f2b_1428x374.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:374,&quot;width&quot;:1428,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:58315,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:false,&quot;topImage&quot;:true,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!RbPd!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F37224812-563a-42a2-a2d7-ab60a4512f2b_1428x374.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!RbPd!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F37224812-563a-42a2-a2d7-ab60a4512f2b_1428x374.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!RbPd!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F37224812-563a-42a2-a2d7-ab60a4512f2b_1428x374.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!RbPd!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F37224812-563a-42a2-a2d7-ab60a4512f2b_1428x374.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" fetchpriority="high"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>But, according to our research using third-party software(SemRush, etc.), we believe the number has come staggeringly low, and Duolingo will keep experiencing this dip in MAUs(Unique Visitors):</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!mVeD!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F776a826a-975a-4e3a-a574-1fbde0a145d1_2089x281.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!mVeD!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F776a826a-975a-4e3a-a574-1fbde0a145d1_2089x281.png" width="1456" height="196" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/776a826a-975a-4e3a-a574-1fbde0a145d1_2089x281.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:196,&quot;width&quot;:1456,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:59708,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:false,&quot;topImage&quot;:true,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" 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fetchpriority="high"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div></li><li><p><strong>Unethical business practices:<br></strong>We have spoken to users who have experienced events where they pay for a premium subscription, but they are not granted the perks even after payment. Even after numerous attempts to contact Duolingo, they do not answer and keep the money. Since we cannot disclose these interactions due to anonymity, we shall attach some of many similar experiences noted on TrustPilot:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!6mfw!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5f4db97c-9a33-4366-bbc8-f33ec8941d78_1526x787.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!6mfw!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5f4db97c-9a33-4366-bbc8-f33ec8941d78_1526x787.png 424w, 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y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!5lA5!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4fed32ed-8cc7-4020-bcca-504c3dd3bd49_1624x825.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!5lA5!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4fed32ed-8cc7-4020-bcca-504c3dd3bd49_1624x825.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!5lA5!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4fed32ed-8cc7-4020-bcca-504c3dd3bd49_1624x825.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!5lA5!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4fed32ed-8cc7-4020-bcca-504c3dd3bd49_1624x825.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!5lA5!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4fed32ed-8cc7-4020-bcca-504c3dd3bd49_1624x825.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!5lA5!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4fed32ed-8cc7-4020-bcca-504c3dd3bd49_1624x825.png" width="1456" height="740" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/4fed32ed-8cc7-4020-bcca-504c3dd3bd49_1624x825.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:740,&quot;width&quot;:1456,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:113215,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:false,&quot;topImage&quot;:true,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!5lA5!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4fed32ed-8cc7-4020-bcca-504c3dd3bd49_1624x825.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!5lA5!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4fed32ed-8cc7-4020-bcca-504c3dd3bd49_1624x825.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!5lA5!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4fed32ed-8cc7-4020-bcca-504c3dd3bd49_1624x825.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!5lA5!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4fed32ed-8cc7-4020-bcca-504c3dd3bd49_1624x825.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" fetchpriority="high"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p></p></li><li><p><strong>Durable Capital Partners&#8217; failed track record:<br></strong>Stable Capital has backed a few IPOs, and here are their returns:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!GYUT!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7b502a48-978f-4ccf-bff4-faa5f181099c_1614x1406.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!GYUT!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7b502a48-978f-4ccf-bff4-faa5f181099c_1614x1406.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!GYUT!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7b502a48-978f-4ccf-bff4-faa5f181099c_1614x1406.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!GYUT!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7b502a48-978f-4ccf-bff4-faa5f181099c_1614x1406.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!GYUT!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7b502a48-978f-4ccf-bff4-faa5f181099c_1614x1406.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!GYUT!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7b502a48-978f-4ccf-bff4-faa5f181099c_1614x1406.png" width="414" height="360.54395604395603" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/7b502a48-978f-4ccf-bff4-faa5f181099c_1614x1406.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:1268,&quot;width&quot;:1456,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:414,&quot;bytes&quot;:165983,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:false,&quot;topImage&quot;:true,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!GYUT!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7b502a48-978f-4ccf-bff4-faa5f181099c_1614x1406.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!GYUT!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7b502a48-978f-4ccf-bff4-faa5f181099c_1614x1406.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!GYUT!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7b502a48-978f-4ccf-bff4-faa5f181099c_1614x1406.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!GYUT!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7b502a48-978f-4ccf-bff4-faa5f181099c_1614x1406.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" fetchpriority="high"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p><br>Durable&#8217;s cluster selling of shares of Warby is a behaviour that we speculate will repeat with Duolingo as well:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!6VCQ!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb54bcf84-f2b7-4425-80c7-90c901c18534_1821x1289.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!6VCQ!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb54bcf84-f2b7-4425-80c7-90c901c18534_1821x1289.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!6VCQ!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb54bcf84-f2b7-4425-80c7-90c901c18534_1821x1289.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!6VCQ!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb54bcf84-f2b7-4425-80c7-90c901c18534_1821x1289.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!6VCQ!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb54bcf84-f2b7-4425-80c7-90c901c18534_1821x1289.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!6VCQ!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb54bcf84-f2b7-4425-80c7-90c901c18534_1821x1289.png" width="1456" height="1031" 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https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!6VCQ!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb54bcf84-f2b7-4425-80c7-90c901c18534_1821x1289.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!6VCQ!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb54bcf84-f2b7-4425-80c7-90c901c18534_1821x1289.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!6VCQ!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb54bcf84-f2b7-4425-80c7-90c901c18534_1821x1289.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" fetchpriority="high"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p><br>The same goes for its other bad IPO, YOU:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!GD5d!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6410ceca-4ad7-4546-9812-6054fccfd043_1583x1217.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!GD5d!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6410ceca-4ad7-4546-9812-6054fccfd043_1583x1217.png 424w, 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y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!jrtg!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F424d51ac-4f55-403c-b707-cefa44b93788_1630x34.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!jrtg!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F424d51ac-4f55-403c-b707-cefa44b93788_1630x34.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!jrtg!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F424d51ac-4f55-403c-b707-cefa44b93788_1630x34.png 848w, 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https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!jrtg!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F424d51ac-4f55-403c-b707-cefa44b93788_1630x34.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!jrtg!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F424d51ac-4f55-403c-b707-cefa44b93788_1630x34.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!jrtg!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F424d51ac-4f55-403c-b707-cefa44b93788_1630x34.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" fetchpriority="high"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div></li><li><p><strong>Unsustainable net margins:<br></strong>An unhealthy part of Duolingo&#8217;s net margins increase is due to its increased interest income:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!V_Uj!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F41aa0e4d-4672-4144-ac91-75daea92e688_1748x757.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!V_Uj!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F41aa0e4d-4672-4144-ac91-75daea92e688_1748x757.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!V_Uj!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F41aa0e4d-4672-4144-ac91-75daea92e688_1748x757.png 848w, 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y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p><br>It has grown from 669,000 USD to 7,543,000 USD YoY. This is a significant contributing factor to the increased net margins. This is due to the high-rate environment. That will eventually end up putting downward pressure on net margins.<br><br>Also, we think it can suffer in the long term due to the increased Stock-Based compensation.<br>A lot of its FCF is being eaten away due to this, and if this continues, coupled with the loss of interest income, it could be troublesome for the stock:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!xFLN!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F646b40ae-28cd-4cb7-8c53-731611a0a3b3_1771x456.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!xFLN!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F646b40ae-28cd-4cb7-8c53-731611a0a3b3_1771x456.png 424w, 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https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!vwyK!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6a57ee0a-722f-47bf-a616-72fd7bfd119b_791x576.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!vwyK!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6a57ee0a-722f-47bf-a616-72fd7bfd119b_791x576.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!vwyK!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6a57ee0a-722f-47bf-a616-72fd7bfd119b_791x576.png" width="791" height="576" 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https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!vwyK!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6a57ee0a-722f-47bf-a616-72fd7bfd119b_791x576.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!vwyK!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6a57ee0a-722f-47bf-a616-72fd7bfd119b_791x576.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!vwyK!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6a57ee0a-722f-47bf-a616-72fd7bfd119b_791x576.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" fetchpriority="high"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p><br></p></li><li><p><strong>The Death of Duolingo MAX:<br></strong>Duolingo has done a promotional scheme where they have boasted that they are one of the first corporations to incorporate GPT-4 into their platform. But is this really in the best interest of Duolingo? We do not think so.<br><br>We have already demonstrated that there are methods to bypass Duolingo&#8217;s &#8216;hearts&#8217; or &#8216;lives&#8217; restriction. There are a ton of scripts on Git Hub to earn &#8216;lingots&#8217; or &#8216;gems&#8217; (Duolingo&#8217;s gamified currency). So, the only &#8216;appeal&#8217; of Duolingo MAX is their AI incorporation, where there is a roleplay and &#8216;Exloain-my-answer&#8217;.<br><br>First, we think the main inconsistency of MAX is that the business may not be sustainable. It costs 30 USD per month, while GPT-4, which has voice activation now, only costs 20 USD per month. The partnership with Duolingo has possibly provided a pipeline of language learning data to OpenAI, which will only be used to bolster GPT-4.<br>In the coming months or years, we think users would much instead switch to GPT-4 for the roleplay feature. <br><br>For instance, here is an example on Twitter where a user practices his Russian using GPT-4 as a language learning assistant:<br></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!A_9s!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F33a598a8-6025-4d39-916e-18689eb0b997_1332x1129.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!A_9s!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F33a598a8-6025-4d39-916e-18689eb0b997_1332x1129.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!A_9s!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F33a598a8-6025-4d39-916e-18689eb0b997_1332x1129.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!A_9s!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F33a598a8-6025-4d39-916e-18689eb0b997_1332x1129.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!A_9s!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F33a598a8-6025-4d39-916e-18689eb0b997_1332x1129.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!A_9s!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F33a598a8-6025-4d39-916e-18689eb0b997_1332x1129.png" width="1332" height="1129" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/33a598a8-6025-4d39-916e-18689eb0b997_1332x1129.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:1129,&quot;width&quot;:1332,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:1729344,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:false,&quot;topImage&quot;:true,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" 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class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p><br></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/dmvaldman/status/1707881743892746381">https://twitter.com/dmvaldman/status/1707881743892746381</a><br><br><br>We believe LLMs&#8217; increased prowess can kill Duolingo&#8217;s AI assistant demand.<br>Something similar to Chegg&#8217;s 40% stock drop when they announced that ChatGPT is killing its business might happen to Duolingo:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" 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y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><ul><li><p>Insider Sale of shares:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Ua9l!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F15c5fd79-bcb1-4295-8ab7-9255f4a6788e_1656x583.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Ua9l!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F15c5fd79-bcb1-4295-8ab7-9255f4a6788e_1656x583.png 424w, 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y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p><br>As previously stated, Durable Cap will keep cashing out, providing some downside pressure on the stock.</p></li><li><p><strong>The overvaluation:<br></strong>We have compared DUOL to other education companies on a Mkt.-Cap/Revenue basis, and here is what we&#8217;ve found:<br>1)  Chegg:<br>Market cap: 984 Million USD<br>Revenue(last quarter): 182 Million USD<br>Ratio: 5.4 (Calculated in millions)<br><br>2) Coursera:<br>Market cap: 2.87 Billion USD (2870 Million USD)<br>Revenue: 152 Million USD<br>Ratio: 18.88<br><br>3) UDMY:<br>Market cap: 1.48 Billion USD(1480 Million USD)<br>Revenue: 178.24 Million USD<br>Ratio: 8.3<br><br>And lastly, Duolingo:<br>Market Cap: 7.28 Billion USD(7280 Million USD)<br>Revenue: 126 Million USD<br>Ratio: 57.7<br><br>This shows the sheer overvaluation of Duolingo. The stock price implies revenues that Duolingo will never be able to achieve, owing to competition from LLMs and other factors.<br><br><strong>CONCLUSION:<br></strong>Ragnarok Research believes that Duolingo, sooner or later, will crash down. A 150% increase from January is entirely unwarranted, and we firmly think that this stock will hit. We highlighted the sheer overvaluation in this write-up.<br>By reading any of our posts, you agree to do your due diligence before making any investment decisions. You agree that the authors of this publication are in no way responsible for your investment decisions and are not liable for any of your possible investment losses. You also agree to acknowledge that we do not guarantee any accuracy in our research. You agree to also not proceed with any legal action against us.<br><br>The authors of this publication do not give any buy or sell recommendations and do not ensure any correctness to our claims or findings. Under no circumstances would you hold the authors liable for any investment losses. One should assume that any sentence or statement in our posts can be inaccurate and factually incorrect and should not influence anyone&#8217;s investing.<br>Sincerely,<br>Ragnarok Research</p></li></ul></li></ul>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[Innodata, the biggest joke of AI stocks which will fall back to the Earth.]]></title><description><![CDATA[Read https://researchragnarok.substack.com/about for disclaimer on buy-sell posts. This is not investment advice. Do your own due diligence before any decisions. We are not responsible for any losses]]></description><link>https://researchragnarok.com/p/innodata-the-biggest-joke-of-ai-stocks</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://researchragnarok.com/p/innodata-the-biggest-joke-of-ai-stocks</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Ragnarok Research]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 05 Sep 2023 14:08:39 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!sBiU!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7aeb5d64-f4ef-4e36-9b8d-edb3fa564e42_1600x495.png" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><strong>Innodata Inc: The biggest AI joke of the stock market</strong><br></p><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://researchragnarok.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">Thanks for reading Ragnarok Research! Subscribe for free to receive new posts and support my work.</p></div><form class="subscription-widget-subscribe"><input type="email" class="email-input" name="email" placeholder="Type your email&#8230;" tabindex="-1"><input type="submit" class="button primary" value="Subscribe"><div class="fake-input-wrapper"><div class="fake-input"></div><div class="fake-button"></div></div></form></div></div><p><br>1) Innodata Inc.(INOD) is an American data engineering company advertising its involvement in AI to drive up the share price. Even though it claims to be in the AI space, we think that Innodata&#8217;s recent increase of 287% YTD is an atrocious pump-and-dump scheme facilitated by its false claims of being an AI company.<br><br>2) Innodata, a while ago, was just an ebook business. Its business involved turning paperback books into digital e-books by transcribing them manually and delivering them to e-book services:<br></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!sBiU!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7aeb5d64-f4ef-4e36-9b8d-edb3fa564e42_1600x495.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!sBiU!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7aeb5d64-f4ef-4e36-9b8d-edb3fa564e42_1600x495.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!sBiU!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7aeb5d64-f4ef-4e36-9b8d-edb3fa564e42_1600x495.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!sBiU!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7aeb5d64-f4ef-4e36-9b8d-edb3fa564e42_1600x495.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!sBiU!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7aeb5d64-f4ef-4e36-9b8d-edb3fa564e42_1600x495.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!sBiU!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7aeb5d64-f4ef-4e36-9b8d-edb3fa564e42_1600x495.png" width="1456" height="450" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/7aeb5d64-f4ef-4e36-9b8d-edb3fa564e42_1600x495.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:450,&quot;width&quot;:1456,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:false,&quot;topImage&quot;:true,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!sBiU!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7aeb5d64-f4ef-4e36-9b8d-edb3fa564e42_1600x495.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!sBiU!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7aeb5d64-f4ef-4e36-9b8d-edb3fa564e42_1600x495.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!sBiU!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7aeb5d64-f4ef-4e36-9b8d-edb3fa564e42_1600x495.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!sBiU!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7aeb5d64-f4ef-4e36-9b8d-edb3fa564e42_1600x495.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" fetchpriority="high"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>They were essentially a business digitising documents. That&#8217;s it<br><br>3) So that begs the question, how did Innodata Inc., run by a 62-year-old executive at the tail end of his career, turn from an e-book data transcriber into a &#8216;cutting-edge AI&#8217; platform?<br>We think it didn&#8217;t, and the market is unaware of this.<br>In multiple points in history, INOD has changed business themes, pump its stock price, and witness a huge crash.<br><br>4) Innodata&#8217;s revenue has been mostly flat throughout the &#8216;AI revolution&#8217;. There has been no growth in the business, and it does not actually play any part in the AI wave, but it sure is trying to be a part of it. Its DDS segment(Digital Data Solutions), which it advertises as its &#8216;AI division&#8217;, has its revenues in a decline:<br></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!suvW!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3a6e49f6-e87c-42ac-91dc-d7ef2e45dcb4_1456x309.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!suvW!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3a6e49f6-e87c-42ac-91dc-d7ef2e45dcb4_1456x309.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!suvW!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3a6e49f6-e87c-42ac-91dc-d7ef2e45dcb4_1456x309.png 848w, 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data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/21b5f843-24eb-4927-8620-6936f9485f55_1456x476.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:476,&quot;width&quot;:1456,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:false,&quot;topImage&quot;:true,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!gCeM!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F21b5f843-24eb-4927-8620-6936f9485f55_1456x476.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!gCeM!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F21b5f843-24eb-4927-8620-6936f9485f55_1456x476.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!gCeM!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F21b5f843-24eb-4927-8620-6936f9485f55_1456x476.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!gCeM!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F21b5f843-24eb-4927-8620-6936f9485f55_1456x476.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" fetchpriority="high"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p><br></p><p><br><br><strong>Reasons why we think Innodata Inc. is an imposter among the AI companies and why we think it would fall to the Earth:</strong><br><br><br><br></p></blockquote><ul><li><p><strong>INOD&#8217;s main &#8216;AI&#8217; business is just basic data collection and annotation</strong>:<br>Just like its e-book days, the only thing Innodata is involved in is merely helping with the data collection process and merely &#8216;correcting&#8217; and &#8216;editing&#8217; some of the potentially faulty data, and definitely not being involved with &#8216;Generative AI transformation&#8217; as it claims to be:<br></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!C56q!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9af33a60-6dc3-4587-bce4-adbfebe56c89_1600x396.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!C56q!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9af33a60-6dc3-4587-bce4-adbfebe56c89_1600x396.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!C56q!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9af33a60-6dc3-4587-bce4-adbfebe56c89_1600x396.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!C56q!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9af33a60-6dc3-4587-bce4-adbfebe56c89_1600x396.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!C56q!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9af33a60-6dc3-4587-bce4-adbfebe56c89_1600x396.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!C56q!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9af33a60-6dc3-4587-bce4-adbfebe56c89_1600x396.png" width="1456" height="360" 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https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!C56q!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9af33a60-6dc3-4587-bce4-adbfebe56c89_1600x396.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!C56q!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9af33a60-6dc3-4587-bce4-adbfebe56c89_1600x396.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!C56q!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9af33a60-6dc3-4587-bce4-adbfebe56c89_1600x396.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!n7NT!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd8216c24-f4e8-4fc2-9d85-239284fa2ef5_1600x263.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!n7NT!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd8216c24-f4e8-4fc2-9d85-239284fa2ef5_1600x263.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!n7NT!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd8216c24-f4e8-4fc2-9d85-239284fa2ef5_1600x263.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!n7NT!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd8216c24-f4e8-4fc2-9d85-239284fa2ef5_1600x263.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!n7NT!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd8216c24-f4e8-4fc2-9d85-239284fa2ef5_1600x263.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!n7NT!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd8216c24-f4e8-4fc2-9d85-239284fa2ef5_1600x263.png" width="1456" height="239" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/d8216c24-f4e8-4fc2-9d85-239284fa2ef5_1600x263.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:239,&quot;width&quot;:1456,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:false,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!n7NT!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd8216c24-f4e8-4fc2-9d85-239284fa2ef5_1600x263.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!n7NT!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd8216c24-f4e8-4fc2-9d85-239284fa2ef5_1600x263.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!n7NT!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd8216c24-f4e8-4fc2-9d85-239284fa2ef5_1600x263.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!n7NT!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd8216c24-f4e8-4fc2-9d85-239284fa2ef5_1600x263.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><p><br><br><br>Even their &#8216;success stories&#8217; page has no information about any AI involvement in their services:<br></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Ps-M!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7e91ddfd-6133-42bc-8692-8c3f3a9c51eb_1600x829.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Ps-M!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7e91ddfd-6133-42bc-8692-8c3f3a9c51eb_1600x829.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Ps-M!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7e91ddfd-6133-42bc-8692-8c3f3a9c51eb_1600x829.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Ps-M!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7e91ddfd-6133-42bc-8692-8c3f3a9c51eb_1600x829.png 1272w, 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stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p><br>Under INOD&#8217;s &#8216;Applied AI&#8217; section on their website, there is more evidence that INOD is just a data company associating itself with AI. The solutions they provide are hardly related to AI for the most part:<br></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!HWwh!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5d69d2ef-701e-4d03-acb4-8ddf75cec292_1600x732.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!HWwh!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5d69d2ef-701e-4d03-acb4-8ddf75cec292_1600x732.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!HWwh!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5d69d2ef-701e-4d03-acb4-8ddf75cec292_1600x732.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!HWwh!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5d69d2ef-701e-4d03-acb4-8ddf75cec292_1600x732.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!HWwh!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5d69d2ef-701e-4d03-acb4-8ddf75cec292_1600x732.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!HWwh!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5d69d2ef-701e-4d03-acb4-8ddf75cec292_1600x732.png" width="1456" height="666" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/5d69d2ef-701e-4d03-acb4-8ddf75cec292_1600x732.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:666,&quot;width&quot;:1456,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:false,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!HWwh!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5d69d2ef-701e-4d03-acb4-8ddf75cec292_1600x732.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!HWwh!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5d69d2ef-701e-4d03-acb4-8ddf75cec292_1600x732.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!HWwh!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5d69d2ef-701e-4d03-acb4-8ddf75cec292_1600x732.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!HWwh!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5d69d2ef-701e-4d03-acb4-8ddf75cec292_1600x732.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" 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y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p><br><br>Innodata&#8217;s website&#8217;s &#8216;AI chatbot&#8217;, which we think is an example of the &#8216;Conversational AI&#8217; shown in the image above, is just composed of a few if-statements rather than actual Generative AI:<br></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!hhx7!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fafad912a-24f7-4571-b0e9-2e2bdf78401c_784x1154.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!hhx7!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fafad912a-24f7-4571-b0e9-2e2bdf78401c_784x1154.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!hhx7!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fafad912a-24f7-4571-b0e9-2e2bdf78401c_784x1154.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!hhx7!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fafad912a-24f7-4571-b0e9-2e2bdf78401c_784x1154.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!hhx7!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fafad912a-24f7-4571-b0e9-2e2bdf78401c_784x1154.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!hhx7!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fafad912a-24f7-4571-b0e9-2e2bdf78401c_784x1154.png" width="148" height="217.8469387755102" 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https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!hhx7!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fafad912a-24f7-4571-b0e9-2e2bdf78401c_784x1154.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!hhx7!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fafad912a-24f7-4571-b0e9-2e2bdf78401c_784x1154.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!hhx7!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fafad912a-24f7-4571-b0e9-2e2bdf78401c_784x1154.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div></li><li><p><strong>Innodata is essentially just a Business Process Outsourcer, instead of using AI solutions as a company.</strong><br>Innodata has offices in numerous regions, with most of them concentrated in the Philippines, India, and Sri Lanka:<br></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!m4Mr!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc50dc444-ba5b-4100-b7c5-9f6ad3d6bd49_1600x200.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!m4Mr!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc50dc444-ba5b-4100-b7c5-9f6ad3d6bd49_1600x200.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!m4Mr!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc50dc444-ba5b-4100-b7c5-9f6ad3d6bd49_1600x200.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!m4Mr!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc50dc444-ba5b-4100-b7c5-9f6ad3d6bd49_1600x200.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!m4Mr!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc50dc444-ba5b-4100-b7c5-9f6ad3d6bd49_1600x200.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!m4Mr!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc50dc444-ba5b-4100-b7c5-9f6ad3d6bd49_1600x200.png" width="1456" height="182" 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https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!m4Mr!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc50dc444-ba5b-4100-b7c5-9f6ad3d6bd49_1600x200.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!m4Mr!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc50dc444-ba5b-4100-b7c5-9f6ad3d6bd49_1600x200.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!m4Mr!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc50dc444-ba5b-4100-b7c5-9f6ad3d6bd49_1600x200.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><p><br><br>However, we have evidence from numerous sources that Innodata, rather than having AI models to help with its business, outsources work to these regions, where engineers are sitting day and night transcribing data from different sources. We feel it is pathetic that Innodata is hoarding around as an AI company while its core operation is having its Asian employees just convert data from one format to another, and maybe some occasional annotation:<br></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Ltdg!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F48954c15-ac8d-4899-85af-2771c058f2e6_1600x338.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Ltdg!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F48954c15-ac8d-4899-85af-2771c058f2e6_1600x338.png 424w, 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y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p><br>Source: JobIndex, Innodata Phillippines<br><br>Source: Google, Innodata Sri Lanka</p></li><li><p><strong>Insider Sales are up through the roof:<br></strong>Rapid insider sale of shares is one of the most bearish things a company could do. If Innodata is an AI company, why would the insiders sell their stake in their company at a point in time when AI development is expected to explode even more going forward? What&#8217;s concerning is even the CEO and CFO have been involved in this; it&#8217;s not just the company's directors.<br></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!wU3X!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1cb4de3b-42be-493a-9b8f-f969f30504aa_1600x677.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!wU3X!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1cb4de3b-42be-493a-9b8f-f969f30504aa_1600x677.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!wU3X!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1cb4de3b-42be-493a-9b8f-f969f30504aa_1600x677.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!wU3X!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1cb4de3b-42be-493a-9b8f-f969f30504aa_1600x677.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!wU3X!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1cb4de3b-42be-493a-9b8f-f969f30504aa_1600x677.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!wU3X!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1cb4de3b-42be-493a-9b8f-f969f30504aa_1600x677.png" width="1456" height="616" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/1cb4de3b-42be-493a-9b8f-f969f30504aa_1600x677.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:616,&quot;width&quot;:1456,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:false,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!wU3X!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1cb4de3b-42be-493a-9b8f-f969f30504aa_1600x677.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!wU3X!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1cb4de3b-42be-493a-9b8f-f969f30504aa_1600x677.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!wU3X!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1cb4de3b-42be-493a-9b8f-f969f30504aa_1600x677.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!wU3X!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1cb4de3b-42be-493a-9b8f-f969f30504aa_1600x677.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div></li><li><p><strong>Innodata&#8217;s concerning money management:<br></strong>Innodata&#8217;s earnings have been depreciating at about -41% annually, while revenues have been increasing at about 7% annually. ROE sits at about -63%, ROA at -22.7% and ROCE at -35%. So, it is clear that Innodata&#8217;s money management is poor.</p></li><li><p><strong>Innodata has crafted an impressive story of its inclusion in the AI space, by constantly reminding investors of its &#8216;AI contracts&#8217;, but we think all of this is a hugely glorified piece of crap:<br></strong></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!o72j!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4fb9bffe-00f2-45d5-8306-b172ea16f4d5_1456x259.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!o72j!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4fb9bffe-00f2-45d5-8306-b172ea16f4d5_1456x259.png 424w, 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data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/8b71c30c-c930-47c4-a0e4-013841a50f7f_1456x233.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:233,&quot;width&quot;:1456,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:false,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!hcnS!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8b71c30c-c930-47c4-a0e4-013841a50f7f_1456x233.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!hcnS!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8b71c30c-c930-47c4-a0e4-013841a50f7f_1456x233.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!hcnS!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8b71c30c-c930-47c4-a0e4-013841a50f7f_1456x233.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!hcnS!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8b71c30c-c930-47c4-a0e4-013841a50f7f_1456x233.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ibS9!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F70a36d29-e5f7-479d-85d8-e489dbcb9604_1456x269.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ibS9!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F70a36d29-e5f7-479d-85d8-e489dbcb9604_1456x269.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ibS9!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F70a36d29-e5f7-479d-85d8-e489dbcb9604_1456x269.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ibS9!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F70a36d29-e5f7-479d-85d8-e489dbcb9604_1456x269.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ibS9!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F70a36d29-e5f7-479d-85d8-e489dbcb9604_1456x269.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ibS9!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F70a36d29-e5f7-479d-85d8-e489dbcb9604_1456x269.png" width="1456" height="269" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/70a36d29-e5f7-479d-85d8-e489dbcb9604_1456x269.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:269,&quot;width&quot;:1456,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:false,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ibS9!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F70a36d29-e5f7-479d-85d8-e489dbcb9604_1456x269.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ibS9!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F70a36d29-e5f7-479d-85d8-e489dbcb9604_1456x269.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ibS9!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F70a36d29-e5f7-479d-85d8-e489dbcb9604_1456x269.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ibS9!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F70a36d29-e5f7-479d-85d8-e489dbcb9604_1456x269.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><p><strong><br><br><br></strong>It is pretty clear that Innodata has been driving up the share price by using these headlines with &#8216;AI&#8217; as the buzzword, but it is pretty evident that Innodata is hugely overestimating its involvement with the Artificial Intelligence industry, just like they have done in the past</p></li><li><p><strong>Innodata has exhibited pump-and-dump-like behaviours in the past, by potentially misleading investors and glorifying themselves:<br></strong>From the image below, it is clear that Innodata has had a lot of bubbles in the past, where the share price rallied a huge amount and comes back crashing down:<br></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_fFS!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8caebb8c-1e43-43d7-a68e-374e30397064_1518x471.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_fFS!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8caebb8c-1e43-43d7-a68e-374e30397064_1518x471.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_fFS!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8caebb8c-1e43-43d7-a68e-374e30397064_1518x471.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_fFS!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8caebb8c-1e43-43d7-a68e-374e30397064_1518x471.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_fFS!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8caebb8c-1e43-43d7-a68e-374e30397064_1518x471.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_fFS!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8caebb8c-1e43-43d7-a68e-374e30397064_1518x471.png" width="1456" height="452" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/8caebb8c-1e43-43d7-a68e-374e30397064_1518x471.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:452,&quot;width&quot;:1456,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:false,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_fFS!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8caebb8c-1e43-43d7-a68e-374e30397064_1518x471.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_fFS!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8caebb8c-1e43-43d7-a68e-374e30397064_1518x471.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_fFS!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8caebb8c-1e43-43d7-a68e-374e30397064_1518x471.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_fFS!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8caebb8c-1e43-43d7-a68e-374e30397064_1518x471.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p><br>I used WayBack machine to capture how Innodata&#8217;s website looked during each of these bubbles:<br>1) Bubble #1: 2001, INOD is an &#8216;Outsourcing partner&#8217;<br></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!rYT3!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7f891395-8193-4e74-8194-eee0fd918076_1419x1314.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!rYT3!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7f891395-8193-4e74-8194-eee0fd918076_1419x1314.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!rYT3!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7f891395-8193-4e74-8194-eee0fd918076_1419x1314.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!rYT3!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7f891395-8193-4e74-8194-eee0fd918076_1419x1314.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!rYT3!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7f891395-8193-4e74-8194-eee0fd918076_1419x1314.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!rYT3!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7f891395-8193-4e74-8194-eee0fd918076_1419x1314.png" width="1419" height="1314" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/7f891395-8193-4e74-8194-eee0fd918076_1419x1314.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:1314,&quot;width&quot;:1419,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:false,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!rYT3!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7f891395-8193-4e74-8194-eee0fd918076_1419x1314.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!rYT3!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7f891395-8193-4e74-8194-eee0fd918076_1419x1314.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!rYT3!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7f891395-8193-4e74-8194-eee0fd918076_1419x1314.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!rYT3!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7f891395-8193-4e74-8194-eee0fd918076_1419x1314.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p><br><br><br>2) Bubble #2: 2005, INOD is into &#8216;Knowledge management and &#8216;Publishing, Media and Information Services;<br></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!1frd!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc8978e2f-013f-4e01-a4c0-c48c9295515e_1600x964.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!1frd!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc8978e2f-013f-4e01-a4c0-c48c9295515e_1600x964.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!1frd!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc8978e2f-013f-4e01-a4c0-c48c9295515e_1600x964.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!1frd!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc8978e2f-013f-4e01-a4c0-c48c9295515e_1600x964.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!1frd!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc8978e2f-013f-4e01-a4c0-c48c9295515e_1600x964.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!1frd!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc8978e2f-013f-4e01-a4c0-c48c9295515e_1600x964.png" width="1456" height="877" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/c8978e2f-013f-4e01-a4c0-c48c9295515e_1600x964.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:877,&quot;width&quot;:1456,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:false,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!1frd!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc8978e2f-013f-4e01-a4c0-c48c9295515e_1600x964.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!1frd!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc8978e2f-013f-4e01-a4c0-c48c9295515e_1600x964.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!1frd!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc8978e2f-013f-4e01-a4c0-c48c9295515e_1600x964.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!1frd!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc8978e2f-013f-4e01-a4c0-c48c9295515e_1600x964.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p><br>3) Bubble #3: 2008, INOD is into &#8216;Knowledge Process Outsourcing&#8217;<br></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!mhMZ!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F11435429-b8a8-471d-8cf3-f7e581a1070f_1600x763.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!mhMZ!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F11435429-b8a8-471d-8cf3-f7e581a1070f_1600x763.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!mhMZ!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F11435429-b8a8-471d-8cf3-f7e581a1070f_1600x763.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!mhMZ!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F11435429-b8a8-471d-8cf3-f7e581a1070f_1600x763.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!mhMZ!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F11435429-b8a8-471d-8cf3-f7e581a1070f_1600x763.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!mhMZ!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F11435429-b8a8-471d-8cf3-f7e581a1070f_1600x763.png" width="1456" height="694" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/11435429-b8a8-471d-8cf3-f7e581a1070f_1600x763.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:694,&quot;width&quot;:1456,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:false,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!mhMZ!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F11435429-b8a8-471d-8cf3-f7e581a1070f_1600x763.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!mhMZ!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F11435429-b8a8-471d-8cf3-f7e581a1070f_1600x763.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!mhMZ!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F11435429-b8a8-471d-8cf3-f7e581a1070f_1600x763.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!mhMZ!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F11435429-b8a8-471d-8cf3-f7e581a1070f_1600x763.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p><br><br>4) Bubble #4: 2009, Same as previous<br><br>5) Bubble #5: 2012: Innodata is into publishing.<br></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!mb28!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc1151f6c-87f5-4c73-9b67-c31b1618e5e7_898x600.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!mb28!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc1151f6c-87f5-4c73-9b67-c31b1618e5e7_898x600.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!mb28!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc1151f6c-87f5-4c73-9b67-c31b1618e5e7_898x600.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!mb28!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc1151f6c-87f5-4c73-9b67-c31b1618e5e7_898x600.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!mb28!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc1151f6c-87f5-4c73-9b67-c31b1618e5e7_898x600.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!mb28!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc1151f6c-87f5-4c73-9b67-c31b1618e5e7_898x600.png" width="898" height="600" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/c1151f6c-87f5-4c73-9b67-c31b1618e5e7_898x600.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:600,&quot;width&quot;:898,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:false,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!mb28!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc1151f6c-87f5-4c73-9b67-c31b1618e5e7_898x600.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!mb28!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc1151f6c-87f5-4c73-9b67-c31b1618e5e7_898x600.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!mb28!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc1151f6c-87f5-4c73-9b67-c31b1618e5e7_898x600.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!mb28!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc1151f6c-87f5-4c73-9b67-c31b1618e5e7_898x600.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p><br>6) Bubble #6: 2021: INOD slowly morphs into an &#8216;AI company&#8217;:<br></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!aB_D!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2bf90289-aac9-4322-9216-03b42ad92669_1600x790.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div></li><li><p><strong>Innodata, an American company, is being audited by BDO India:<br></strong></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!aMng!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff5ec3812-ea4d-448a-9ad1-8c2dd9c2b131_1456x497.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!aMng!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff5ec3812-ea4d-448a-9ad1-8c2dd9c2b131_1456x497.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!aMng!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff5ec3812-ea4d-448a-9ad1-8c2dd9c2b131_1456x497.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!aMng!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff5ec3812-ea4d-448a-9ad1-8c2dd9c2b131_1456x497.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!aMng!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff5ec3812-ea4d-448a-9ad1-8c2dd9c2b131_1456x497.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img 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srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!aMng!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff5ec3812-ea4d-448a-9ad1-8c2dd9c2b131_1456x497.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!aMng!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff5ec3812-ea4d-448a-9ad1-8c2dd9c2b131_1456x497.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!aMng!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff5ec3812-ea4d-448a-9ad1-8c2dd9c2b131_1456x497.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!aMng!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff5ec3812-ea4d-448a-9ad1-8c2dd9c2b131_1456x497.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft 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stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p><strong><br></strong>This, for us, is a huge red flag. There are so many inconsistencies that could arise from this. We think it is very odd that Innodata, the self-proclaimed maker of &#8216;data for the world&#8217;s most valuable companies&#8217;, is being audited by a BDO office that is not even from the US.</p></li><li><p><strong>Innodata is trading at a huge overvaluation relative to its peers:<br></strong>Higher-than-perceived overvaluation.<br>In 2023 Q1 Earning transcript, we can see the following interaction between an analyst and INOD&#8217;s CEO:<br></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!1xZH!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F960962aa-1d36-4e06-a5c2-9d35423a14e1_828x608.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!1xZH!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F960962aa-1d36-4e06-a5c2-9d35423a14e1_828x608.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!1xZH!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F960962aa-1d36-4e06-a5c2-9d35423a14e1_828x608.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!1xZH!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F960962aa-1d36-4e06-a5c2-9d35423a14e1_828x608.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!1xZH!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F960962aa-1d36-4e06-a5c2-9d35423a14e1_828x608.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img 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stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div></li><li></li><li><p>This is a pathetic analysis since I&#8217;m guessing the analyst is comparing INOD to the big AI companies, like MSFT, NVDA, GOOGL, META, etc.<br><br>But, when we compare INOD to its peers(Data engineering companies), we see a different picture:<br></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!xMN5!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff3b2c9f5-ba4e-408c-8c7c-3273a5a33aab_1120x722.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!xMN5!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff3b2c9f5-ba4e-408c-8c7c-3273a5a33aab_1120x722.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!xMN5!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff3b2c9f5-ba4e-408c-8c7c-3273a5a33aab_1120x722.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!xMN5!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff3b2c9f5-ba4e-408c-8c7c-3273a5a33aab_1120x722.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!xMN5!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff3b2c9f5-ba4e-408c-8c7c-3273a5a33aab_1120x722.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img 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stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div></li><li></li><li><p>Assuming this &#8216;analyst&#8217; is saying that INOD has a market cap 2x of annual revenue, let&#8217;s compare INOD with the names above(companies that ACTUALLY are in the same field as INOD):<br>INOD mkt/Rev ratio: 4.64<br>FiscalNote Mkt/Rev ratio: Slightly less than 3<br>UIS crop: Mkt/Rev ratio: Annual Revenue more than the Market cap</p></li><li><p>Ealixir Inc: Mkt/Rev ratio: Annual revenue more than the Market cap<br>BBAI: Mkt/Rev ratio: 1.6</p></li><li><p>III: Mkt/Rev ratio: Annual Revenue more than the Market cap<br>CTLP: Mkt/Rev ratio: 2.6</p></li><li><p>CTG: Mkt/Rev ratio: Annual Revenue more than the market cap</p></li></ul><ul><li><p><strong>Conclusion:<br></strong>Innodata is not an AI company. It is hardly a data company that just outsources its work to a bunch of people in Asia to do their &#8216;copy-paste&#8217;. It is astounding how such a crappy company as Innodata has managed to augment its involvement with Artificial Intelligence and drive its share price so high.<br>Its insiders are dumping shares nonstop, and they certainly don&#8217;t seem too shy about it. This could be the most overvalued AI stock in the stock market, as it is up 287% YTD. The market has not yet realised that this is a joke of a company, and it is just trying to falsely ride the AI wave. Not one sane person would buy this stock if they knew of the insane overvaluation and its business background. Even after a collapse of about 50-60%, we would deem it overvalued. We have seen pump-and-dumps in this stock, and now it has completed its pump. The only thing left is for it to fall back to its &#8216;regular&#8217; price of about 2-3 dollars per share.</p></li></ul><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://researchragnarok.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">Thanks for reading Ragnarok Research! Subscribe for free to receive new posts and support my work.</p></div><form class="subscription-widget-subscribe"><input type="email" class="email-input" name="email" placeholder="Type your email&#8230;" tabindex="-1"><input type="submit" class="button primary" value="Subscribe"><div class="fake-input-wrapper"><div class="fake-input"></div><div class="fake-button"></div></div></form></div></div>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[The NVDA Paradox]]></title><description><![CDATA[Light appears both as a particle and a wave. NVDA appears as both bullish and bearish to different people. Which is it?]]></description><link>https://researchragnarok.com/p/the-nvda-paradox</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://researchragnarok.com/p/the-nvda-paradox</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Ragnarok Research]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sun, 06 Aug 2023 21:35:31 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!13Nj!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F586f24d6-1510-4446-a932-674342bb20c4_1600x1191.png" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The NVDA Paradox</p><p>You know the thing in physics where light behaves as a wave and a particle ? And you have no idea why or how because you have 10 braincells?</p><p><em>Yeah, I relate</em>&#8230;</p><p>But, this idea reminded me of a Nvidia stock, since I have seen a lot of people(very smart ones) give amazing justifications to their bullish and bearish outlooks for the stock.</p><p>That leaves us, the dumb people with no opinions.<br><br>So, let&#8217;s discuss<br><br></p><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://researchragnarok.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">Thanks for reading The Noob Quant! Subscribe for free to receive my shitty interesting analysis! Scroll below</p></div><form class="subscription-widget-subscribe"><input type="email" class="email-input" name="email" placeholder="Type your email&#8230;" tabindex="-1"><input type="submit" class="button primary" value="Subscribe"><div class="fake-input-wrapper"><div class="fake-input"></div><div class="fake-button"></div></div></form></div></div><p><br></p><p><br><strong>Exibit A: The bulls<br></strong><br>This is, in a way, a no-brainer. With all the Generative AI fiasco, NVDA has risen by a lot, since their products are essential for the AI industry in general. Nothing runs without these procoessors. So, the AI boom obviously meant a boom for NVDA, resulting in this:<br></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!13Nj!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F586f24d6-1510-4446-a932-674342bb20c4_1600x1191.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!13Nj!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F586f24d6-1510-4446-a932-674342bb20c4_1600x1191.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!13Nj!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F586f24d6-1510-4446-a932-674342bb20c4_1600x1191.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!13Nj!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F586f24d6-1510-4446-a932-674342bb20c4_1600x1191.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!13Nj!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F586f24d6-1510-4446-a932-674342bb20c4_1600x1191.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!13Nj!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F586f24d6-1510-4446-a932-674342bb20c4_1600x1191.png" width="1456" height="1084" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/586f24d6-1510-4446-a932-674342bb20c4_1600x1191.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:1084,&quot;width&quot;:1456,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:false,&quot;topImage&quot;:true,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!13Nj!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F586f24d6-1510-4446-a932-674342bb20c4_1600x1191.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!13Nj!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F586f24d6-1510-4446-a932-674342bb20c4_1600x1191.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!13Nj!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F586f24d6-1510-4446-a932-674342bb20c4_1600x1191.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!13Nj!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F586f24d6-1510-4446-a932-674342bb20c4_1600x1191.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" fetchpriority="high"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p><br></p><p>That is insane&#8230; Imagine shorting that and you just see it edging higher and higher.<br>As of now, Generative Artificial Intelligence is limited, and is not in access to everyone. <br><br><em>But, imagine when it is.<br></em><br>Imagine all the AI data centres needing these processors. The demand would shoot right up, and that would be just insane for Nvidia.<em><br><br></em>Imagine Nvidia&#8217;s earnings. That would be explosive. The fact that its market cap is 1.1T, and there is a chance that it&#8217;s just getting started? Goddamn that&#8217;s a huge buy.</p><p>Even analysts across wall street love this stock. I mean, can you blame them really ?<br><br>AI model upgrades demand more hardware. With NVDA controlling 80% of AI processors market, you can deduce that NVDA would benefit from this phenomenon.<br></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!MFvE!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc94b6d10-0bff-4757-b67a-b13533ae0bc0_848x598.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!MFvE!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc94b6d10-0bff-4757-b67a-b13533ae0bc0_848x598.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!MFvE!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc94b6d10-0bff-4757-b67a-b13533ae0bc0_848x598.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!MFvE!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc94b6d10-0bff-4757-b67a-b13533ae0bc0_848x598.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!MFvE!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc94b6d10-0bff-4757-b67a-b13533ae0bc0_848x598.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!MFvE!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc94b6d10-0bff-4757-b67a-b13533ae0bc0_848x598.png" width="848" height="598" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/c94b6d10-0bff-4757-b67a-b13533ae0bc0_848x598.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:598,&quot;width&quot;:848,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!MFvE!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc94b6d10-0bff-4757-b67a-b13533ae0bc0_848x598.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!MFvE!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc94b6d10-0bff-4757-b67a-b13533ae0bc0_848x598.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!MFvE!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc94b6d10-0bff-4757-b67a-b13533ae0bc0_848x598.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!MFvE!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc94b6d10-0bff-4757-b67a-b13533ae0bc0_848x598.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p><br>The model upgrades are growing exponentially as a matter of fact.<br><br>I&#8217;ve read predictions that NVDA&#8217;s processors will be the backbone of autonomous driving. Elon even said that he&#8217;ll be mass ordering shit from NVDA.<br><br>Looks great for the business doesn&#8217;t it ?<br><br><em>But, what about the stock?<br><br></em><strong>Exhibit B: The Bears<br><br></strong>Both the bulls and the bears agree that NVDA&#8217;s business is a money printer, but the stock ? This is where the disagreement comes in.<br><br>The bears think NVDA is overvalued. In fact, Ashwath Damodaran, the dean of valuation himself, thinks NVDA is overpriced. <br><br><em>When Damodaran speaks, you listen<br><br></em>But, let me lay out my understanding of NVDA&#8217;s valuation.<br><br>NVDA&#8217;s Price to Earnings ratio right now is 232, with the stock at 446.<br>That high a PE ratio is crazy.<br><br>Now, tech stocks on average have a PE ratio of 25-30.<br><br>Just to prove me point of how much speculation is baked into NVDA, I&#8217;ll perform calculations by assuming that NVDA&#8217;s PE ratio will revert to 30.<br><br>Assuming NVDA&#8217;s stock remains the same, and assuming NVDA&#8217;s PE ratio should revert to 30, that can mean 2 things:<br>- Stock falls by almost 8 times</p><p>- Earnings grow by almost 8 times.<br><br>Well obviously it doesn&#8217;t exactly work like that, but it&#8217;s my understanding of NVDA&#8217;s crazy valuation.<br><br>Crunching some numbers as per this <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ddIgq695m2w&amp;t=416s">video</a>, Assuming we hit NVDA&#8217;s guidance of quarterly net income of 4.15B then we hit an annualized figure of 16.6B<br><br>So, even if NVDA hits the absurdly ambitious guidance number(for reference, the last 12-month net income is 4.79 Billion), we have a PE Ratio of 60.<br><br>So, to sum it all up, in order for the stock to be sustainable by assuming the PE ratio will revert to 30 over time, Annualised earnings should grow to about 32 Billion, about 8 fold from its current value, and 2 fold from its quarterly guidance annualised.<br><br>Is this possible? It is very hard to say. <br><br>When investors pile their money in NVDA, they are betting that a Trillion dollar company can grow its business many times over. <br><br>This would've been more probable for a small-cap stock&#8230; But NVDA ?! A trillion dollar company growing its business many times over ??!! 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A lot of people knew Tesla had to come back down, but they lost money since they could not time it correctly.<br><br>Notice a white mark on the chart ? This was when Tesla entered a trillion-dollar valuation. That is also the time that Tesla started declining.<br><br>Is there a mechanism that the market understands that a company <strong>cannot </strong>its business many times over <em>after </em>it hits trillion-dollar status ? IDK.<br><br>I could definitely see in all trillion-dollar companies that growing earnings by huge margins is extremely difficult, cuz the company is huge already.<br><br>Maybe this effect applies to NVDA ?</p><p><strong>Conclusion:<br></strong>I can interpret it the following way:<br>1) NVDA has a great business and MOAT<br>2) NVDA has an overvalued stock, and it may decline<br>3) Both of these 2 possibilities can co-exist<br><br>NVDA is going to be a huge AI player. That&#8217;s for sure.<br><br>But the stock ?<br><br>I think the market won&#8217;t <em>crash</em>, but will correct aggressively.<br><br>We will prolly see the maturity of a hugely bullish growth stock, to a GARP stock(Growth At Reasonable Price)<br>We can already see it happening since momentum has slowed down.<br><br><strong>Should you listen to me ?<br></strong>Hell, no.<br><br>I&#8217;m a 15 year old teenager who doesn&#8217;t know what the hell I&#8217;m doing. I&#8217;m just having fun here, mate. Nothing more. <br><br>I can be dead wrong, or I can be sooo right for the totally wrong reasons.<br><br>After all, would you trust a kid with gambling issues ?<br>Prolly not.<br><br></p>]]></content:encoded></item></channel></rss>